Male coaches

[OhMandy]

No this is not another debate about having the males coaches in the same bracket during the NCAA. But another problem: The fact that quality male coaches who have built programs into Top 25 programs or from solid mid major programs but don't mentioned or considered for the higher profile jobs. The Maryland's
The Florida's. I'm not talking about Foster who was already a great coach going to Ohio St. But a mid major program.

Why hasn't Tom Collen name at Colorado St been mentioned for the higher profile jobs?

Why hasn't Mark Trakh of Pepperdine been mentioned?

While I don't think he's that good of a coach why hasn't Mark French?

I mean Brenda Oldfield did a great job at Minnesota then gets offered the Maryland job? But she hasn't done much in her career during the NCAA. She was at Ball St before and they didn't go far in the NCAA. Hell I don't think BSU even made it to the NCAA tourney under Oldfield.

Why not Collen who went to the Elite Eight a few years ago? OK OK his team lost in the first round of the NCAA tourney this year but his track record is awesome.

I know there are a lot of qualified coaches, male and female. But I think some male coaches at the mid major level are not getting a fair shake.

[vickie1ok]

And, why did the Kent St. coach get the Arkansas men's coaching job? He was hot. Hence, Brenda Oldfield. She's hot for what she has done with nothing in a short period of time.

There probably is a bias towards women for two reasons: the hottest young coaches have been women, and there is a thought that women can recruit better than men. Whether either is true or not, is out to debate. But like you, I don't want to see quality males passed over.

Hum...I wonder if the day will ever pass in my lifetime why we don't wonder about the bias against a woman coaching a man's sport? Or do we just all assume that women are incapable of doing it? If women's hoops fans assume men are great coaches for the women's game, but women are not suitable for coaching the men's game, then we know what male fans think! More food for thought...

[mred]

Originally posted by OhMandy:
She was at Ball St before and they didn't go far in the NCAA. Hell I don't think BSU even made it to the NCAA tourney under Oldfield.

Ball State had consecutive winning seasons under Oldfield. That may not sound like much, but it was only the second time in history that BSU had two straight winning seasons. There's a different standard for success in the mid-major conferences. Oldfield took a perennial MAC doormat and turned it into a winning team that could contend for the conference title.

[OhMandy]

Then explain how a mid major like Colorado St lead by a male coach went to the Elite Eight a few years ago? Why hasn't he gotten offers from more high profile schools?

[mred]

Originally posted by OhMandy:
Then explain how a mid major like Colorado St lead by a male coach went to the Elite Eight a few years ago? Why hasn't he gotten offers from more high profile schools?

Collen was thrown around as a possibility for the Purdue job (when Peck left) and the Ohio State job (but who wasn't?). I don't doubt that he hasn't been talked about more because he's male. Some schools have even acknowleged that they are primarily seeking a woman to be the head coach. This is certainly not fair, but I guess it's just the way it is. As a fan of a team with a successful male coach, I'm happy that this will probably make him less likely to leave. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif

[kate dawg]

OhMandy...point of fact: Tom Collen did not take CSU to the Elite Eight. They made the Sweet 16 in 1999 and lost to UCLA, who then lost to La Tech. They did not make the 2000 NCAA, then lost in 2001 in the second round at UConn. They also made the 1998 NCAA and lost to Purdue in the second round.

[YCN]

I for one would like to post the controversial suggestion that if Coach Kelvin Sampson ever decided to test deeper waters, that the Oklahoma Athletic Department should first consider Coach Coale as head coach for the men's team.

While that might sound unorthodox to the extreme, if you get past the novelty factor the only requirement for the job is whether or not you can win. In that department I would figure that Coale could wrassle a brahma bull at a tea party and the bull would respectfully decline to participate.

It's not about sex, but winning. I know a winner when I see one.

The biggest question would be whether Coach Coale would accept such a job. The pressure quotient for a coach at a high-profile school is extremely high. She might very well decide - if offered the chance - that the stakes are higher than her desire to gamble on that success. But I sure wouldn't put it past her, because she knows no fear.