and UConn layed the wood to Connecticut...

[YCN]

tonight...

I simply cannot believe the incompetence of the announcers.

They are worse than I could have imagined.

[DblT81]

I liked the time Mike Patrick refered to OU's coach as Stacy Coale.

And then there was all the times he said 'Tennessee' when he really meant Connecticut.

[Jennifer]

Even my boyfriend, whose not a basketball fan and doesn't watch much at all, was put off by the announcers.

I also heard them say Coach Coales a time or two. Are these people idiots????

ANd it still doesn't seem like OU is getting the respect from them...maybe I'm just to sensitive.
During the OU game, they kept saying how poor Duke was playing, their offense was off, etc. Never was any credit given to OU's defense...Gee, think that might have at least a little to do with Duke's play?

We were wishing we could mute the announcers but still hear the crowd.

[Bevo]

Originally posted by Jennifer:
they kept saying how poor Duke was playing, their offense was off, etc. Never was any credit given to OU's defense.

I made that same point last week when Texas played Duke. It was all about how poorly Duke was playing (offensively), not at all that Texas played good defense.

[Jennifer]

Originally posted by Bevo:
I made that same point last week when Texas played Duke. It was all about how poorly Duke was playing (offensively), not at all that Texas played good defense.



Yep, I noticed that to. And I also heard that imagine how bad the 'rout would be if Duke had been on their game. Well, imagine Duke possibly losing if Texas had been on theirs.
Damn announcers.

Also read some of the Duke palyer quotes. Of course they are upset about losing and they are young, Iciss Tillis said, (Key reasons for the loss)
"It was things that we could have controlled that lost the game for us
like our defense and our lack of offensive rebounding. That really lost
the game for us and it was something that we could have totally
controlled."

Hmm, one reason she didn't go to Oklahoma was because she wanted to go somewhere that she could win a championship. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif

[Cycurl714]

And "Stacy Coale" led her team to the national championship game

[schooner2]

I originally heard the game through the radio. I just watched a tape of the game. Mike Patrick - I've got the name right? - has been good in the past on these games, but last night was absolutely horrendous. They both were so bad, it really starts to take away from the game.

I agree with everyone else, the Fox duo of Land and Antonelli (sp?) was very, very good. Ashame we couldn't have them announcing.

Those two last night couldn't break the game down at all to let us know what was going on. And the constant errors were really annoying. And then my pet peeve.... It's been talked about so much that sure enough, people are trying to rewrite history and say that Coale came on board the week after the Oklahoma program was disbanded and resurrected it to this height. That's exactly what Mike Patrick said. Unbelievable. Do a little research people!

[ConnMan]

It's nothing new for Mike Patrick. During the 2000 NC game he called UConn's Kennitra Johnson by three different last names. One of my favorites was this January when he referred to Diana Taurasi as "the player without a conscience" instead of "playing unconscious." Unreal.

Sometimes I think ESPN and CBS holds auditions for announcers and disqualifies anyone who might sound as if they have a firm command of American English. What a bunch of stumbling bozos - what excuses do Billy Packer and Dick Vitale have for being in front of a camera or anywhere near a microphone?

[vickie1ok]

And the worst thing was he referred to the program being discontinued SIX years ago before Sherri was hired. While that may make for a much more dramatic story, it just ain't true.

[swok34]

LaNae Jones (ex-OU player)mother called a local radio station this morning and complained about the 60 fans to 6000 fans and how that minimizes what players like her daughter did for OU.

OU lost in the 2nd round of the NCAA's in 1995 the year prior to Sherri's hiring......I think the media is trying to make the story sound even "larger" by making folks believe that those 60 fans that sat in seats in 1990 and all the players and fans that supported the program in the years of '91 through '95 were actually living in the twilight zone........ http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif

I think Sherri's story stands on it's own merit alone, with no help from the media to make it even larger....a high school coach with a high school assistant taking the program from a 5-22 season to the final four in 6 years.........

that's amazing!

You all should have heard the arena announcer.......who the heck is Canton Hill?

[This message has been edited by swok34 (edited 04-02-2002).]

[schooner2]

Originally posted by swok34:
LaNae Jones (ex-OU player)mother called a local radio station this morning and complained about the 60 fans to 6000 fans and how that minimizes what players like her daughter did for OU.

This is exactly why people need to pay careful attention to history. There were some very good players for OU in 1994 and 1995. LaNae was a great shot blocker. Pam Pennon was a quick as lightning point guard. And there were other very good players including some actual big posts OU had back then.


You all should have heard the arena announcer.......who the heck is Canton Hill?

Heard that too. Hilarious. But she did call her by the correct name later in the game when Caton came in as a sub.

[NorthForty]

I was peeved as well listening to the OU-UConn game especially when they said there were only 65 people in the stands when Coale arrived. I remember some great OU teams (yet underachieving)especially the 94-95 team with the frontline of Jones, Wade, & Guffy. The guards of Maytubby, Mitchum, and Van Curen (??? #33, blonde) They were ranked in the top 25. Having played at Lloyd Noble I witnessed more than 65 fans in the stands. Yes Coale had done a great job and I would love to play for her but the history is not as awful as ESPN has made it sound.

[KSUron]

ESPN could do me two great favors with their coverage.

1. Fire the writers and hire a researcher. It seemed to me that both announcers had about 90 pages of script that they were determined to read at all costs. Much of the material while good was not in ANY way timely, and had NOTHING to do with the action on the court or in many respects even with the game. On several ocasions there were fouls called and if I was lucky I could pick out who the foul was on from the PA announcer in the background but I was not going to hear it from Patrick or Meyers. Come to think of it, that may be the problem. We had two people determined to out do each other as "Color" anouncer and no play by play person, or in fact an anouncer who was even interested in the game itself. I will concede, however that those of us on this board were not the audience they were playing to. We already know almost everything they were saying and were annoyed by the incessant reapeating of it at the expense of covering the actual game. Less knowlegable viewers MAY have been interested in SOME of that junk?

2. Fire the director and find one who cares about basketball. Close up face shots for a second or more after made baskets for instance, may be artistic but they sure detract from following the game when carried to extream as they were by ESPN. (Note to all TV directors broadcasting WBB. A lot of times the players do not wait for you to show your cute close-ups. They actually are seting up the next play and some of them really like to run. Fast breaks off made baskets are by no means unheard of.) Please Please could we have some relevent timely replays of fouls or when possible controversial non-calls. If the NCAA doesn't want you to show those kinds of replays use the clout of those bucks you pay and show them anyway! One knowlegable fan could help you a lot in selecting replays if there is no one on the broadcast staff who knows or cares about the game.

OK I could rant on and on but you might join my wife who tells me to put a sock in it.

I really do appreciate the fact that the games are covered. Thanks for that ESPN.

[vickie1ok]

I truly think the NCAA and the conferences make it a part of their contracts with ESPN and other broadcast networks to tone down any criticism of officiating. This is also the case with men's BB. Most broadcasting networks hardly ever even question officials calls and in fact, as you point out, don't even repeat them on replay. That isn't by accident.

[swok34]

probably right.........I watched the second half of the UConn game and have decided that half of the UConn team has been working on the Lisa Leslie elbow for the upcoming WNBA... http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif Incredible the no call elbow fouls that flew the players to the floor, even Caton Hill and that's saying a lot.

[KSUron]

Originally posted by vickie1ok:
I truly think the NCAA and the conferences make it a part of their contracts with ESPN and other broadcast networks to tone down any criticism of officiating. This is also the case with men's BB. Most broadcasting networks hardly ever even question officials calls and in fact, as you point out, don't even repeat them on replay. That isn't by accident.

I think you are right, But I think the NCAA is making a mistake in the case of replays. In most cases good replays will support the calls of good officials and at least give you an idea why the ref saw it that way, even if you saw it different. I think for instance, that the rare replay that was used, Stacey Dales last foul, supported the call. Now if we are saying that widely used replays would show-up the officials as seriously mistake prone then the NCAA is correct. In fact as much as it may pain me to say it, I think the officials are right most of the time. I would just like to see the replay to see what happened if I missed it, or see it from another angle. Certainly most of us fans miss the calls that are made away from the ball.

I think the anouncers should NOT second guess the officials. Often their view (and viewpoint) is no more accurate than the fans.