Early Attendance Figure

[swok34]

http://www.uwbadgers.com/story.asp?id_number=2001_12_10_12_25_wbb


Does Connecticut ever leave home?.....they have yet to play a game away from home.

The Big 12 ranks:

2) Texas Tech
6) Iowa State
13) Texas
15) Oklahoma
18) Kansas State
20) Nebraska
26) Colorado
27) Missouri

hmmmmm, the last place 41st shows an average of 490 fans, can't tell me that even Texas A & M or Kansas doesn't bring in that many.....maybe this is not complete?

[mred]

I was a bit surprised to see ISU in 5th place until I realized something: their two home games were the day before and the day after Thanksgiving for the Coaches v. Cancer tournament. All other games were away (@Marquette, @Creighton, @Drake, @Northwestern). They have four home games left: Iowa on Wednesday (which should be close to a sell-out if it doesn't), the Cyclone Classic this Fri/Sat (which should be well-attended due to the weekend), and UNI the following Saturday. ISU's attendance numbers will be going up a lot in the next few weeks.

[swok34]

Here's info off the Big 12 site....so the list above is not complete. March to a Million current stats:

Team Home Games Cumulative Attendance
Baylor 4 14,090
Colorado 6 12,123
Iowa State 2 15,565
Kansas 4 3,064
Kansas State 5 14,326
Missouri 4 7,835
Nebraska 5 13,679
Oklahoma 3 11,499
Oklahoma State 3 6,225
Texas 4 18,727
Texas A&M 4 6,764
Texas Tech 2 26,155

Big 12 Totals 46 150,052

[ISU3PointLand]

I'm wondering about the consistency of the reporting schools. For example, Iowa State's official box scores have shown the attendance well over 11,000 for each home game. But from actually being there, the crowds weren't nearly that big and the tickets sold were counted as the actual attendance. But on the Wisconsin website, it looks as thought they are counting actual bodies in the seats (not sure where they're getting the actual count from).

You cannot convince me that UConn has had packed houses for each and every one of their games. I know Huskie fans are pretty much devoted to UConn basketball and have no lives, (lol), but I find it very hard to believe that Rhode Island drew a capacity crowd for Gino's girls.

[This message has been edited by ISU3PointLand (edited 12-11-2001).]

[schooner2]

From what I've heard about UCONN, it wouldn't surprise me if they were filled to the rafters for every single game.

[swok34]

I agree with schooner about Uconn....if they have extra tickets, they sell them.

Heck, it cost an arm and your first born child to even think about getting season tickets to Connecticut. Leave a seat empty after that, no way. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif

[mred]

Originally posted by ISU3PointLand:
I'm wondering about the consistency of the reporting schools. For example, Iowa State's official box scores have shown the attendance well over 11,000 for each home game.

Actually, they don't. Cyclones.com has the attendance for both games in the 7-8 thousand range. I suspect official NCAA tournaments (as this was) report attendance differently than they usually do. If you remember the NCAA tournament last year, the attendance figures seemed to actually underestimate the attendance. Since ISU sold well over 10,000 season tickets, the number sold could not be as low as the reported attendance.

This is just a theory.

[Bark]

I'm a UConn fan just passing by. FYI, all UConn home games have been sold out for years and all games are on TV.

[swok34]

ahhhhhh, Bark.....will you return for some trash-talking http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif

Just joking, I really like Connecticut's team, though looking forward to the "showdown".

[Big12Bear]

That first chart isn't even remotely accurate. BU should probably be around 4th in the Big 12 in attendance and in the top 25 in the nation, like last year. Big game against UCLA this weekend, but all of these Sunday games don't help our figures.

[CyRox98]

I think what ISU3PointLand was talking about was the men's attendance figures. For several of their homes games, the box score showed an attendance of over 12,000. From what I could see on tv, the parquet was a little more than half full (for the San Jose State loss), with only a handful of people in the balcony. To me, this would equal about 4000 to 5000, not the numbers they are coming up with. Makes me wonder where they are getting these figures. If they are going by season tickets sold and not actual attendance, why are the women not over 10,000 for their games the week of Thanksgiving? Something is definitely screwy with the counting here. The men's team is not playing well, people are not going to the games, but the university seems to want to make sure it LOOKS like people are there (even tho it's obvious they are not).

[This message has been edited by CyRox98 (edited 12-12-2001).]

[mred]

I don't think there's any conspiracy going on. I just think that perhaps official tournaments have different guidelines for counting attendance. According to official stats, ISU averaged around 11,500 for the two NCAA tournament games. There were not 1000 empty seats for either game, and Hilton holds over 14,000.

[dem]

I agree, there is something very fishy about how ISU calculates attendance. All of us who have attended the NCAA tournament games the past two years know, with certainty, that Hilton looked just about as full for the Florida State game (announced attendance: 11,756) as it did for the Saint Francis game (announced attendance: 13,617). The seating layout was more or less the same, and so was the number of empty seats (i.e., hardly any). The radio announcers also pointed out the discrepancy, and nobody has ever tried to explain it. On top of that, there is no question that early last season ISU was reporting PAID attendance (over 11,000) when fewer than 8,000 were in the seats. This season, with over 10,000 season tickets sold, the counting method for the Thanksgiving games was obviously different, since they were reported more or less accurately as around 8,000 (or maybe that was a little high -- I wasn't there to see). Tonight's announced attendance of 12,579 for the Iowa game looked about right. (Attendance was down from last year due to weekday scheduling.)

Bottom line is, obviously, that everyone's attendance figures need to be taken with a grain of salt. It is clear that the people in charge do not have quite the same commitment to high-precision, reliable statistical measurements as do the fanatical hard-core fans!