Tech vs. Arizona State

[Bball Girl]

Played tonite at Chase Field (the baseball field). It's 56 degrees with a chance of showers...they may close the roof.

Nice article on Ches
http://www.redraiders.com/stories/121806/wbb_121806014.shtml

They're expecting 10,000 for the game, which will be played on the infield at the home of the Arizona Diamondbacks and on the Phoenix Mercury's donated court.

Because of colder-than-expected temperatures and a chance of rain, there is a possibility that the game will be played under Chase Field's retractable roof

[YCN]

I don't know how up-to-date Gametracker is, but with 11:57 remaining in the first half Tech trails 11-14, BUT Arizona State has 7 fouls to only 1 for Tech. That could pay big dividends in the first half for Tech if the trend continues.

[walkaway]

It's looking rough for Tech's shooting percentage tonight, though. T draws a foul trying to set a screen.

[Bball Girl]

ASU 22
Tech 12
9:22

Tech shooting very poorly

[Bball Girl]

Ches knocks down a tough shot -

ASU 28
Tech 16

[walkaway]

30-23 and the sound goes out on the radio ... I hope the weather in Lubbock is good Thursday. The Lady Raiders will be home to play Furman. When the radio dies in the USA, I can usually still read Ryan's lips ...

[BearLady]

T draws a foul trying to set a screen.

Please help us out . . . who is T?

Tiny?

[Bball Girl]

I think T is Tawanna Flowers

ASU 37
Tech 25

Halftime

Just called an intentional on Murphree...Ryan said she grabbed around the player and ended up falling on top of her. The crowd is not happy, we can hear the ASU broadcast too, the wind is blowing, the sound is very weird. Tech is now fouling way too much. Tech shooting 35% - ASU w/ aggressive defense.

Tech w/ 16 turnovers (ASU w/ 11) :eek:

[walkaway]

Indeed -- T is Tawanna Flowers.

[Bball Girl]

Ladies and Gentleman...we have *festive shotclocks*

Ryan-speak for a "blinking shotclock"

They are shutting off the shotclocks....

We'll trade you 2 space heaters for a working shotclock (Ryan again) - it's very weird to hear Ryan and be able to hear the ASU broadcast in the background.

Oh..if the game were as gleeful. Tech shooting even cooler in the 2nd.
ASU 44
Tech 27 :(

[walkaway]

Not to put too fine a point on it, Tech's shooting percentages suck tonight. Combine that with a redhot ASU team and 30 turnovers and Tech is trailing 51-33.

[AngelSong20]

Wow, you know you've hit rock bottom when Tech is losing games by 20+ and OSU and A&M are winning by the same margins. Gosh I hope we land some players who can shoot and hold on to the ball.

[Bball Girl]

Don't jinx us...we've *only* had 23 turnovers

ASU is playing quite the pressure defense...has 24 pts off of turnovers and 30 pts off the bench.

[Dale8R]

Don't forget to factor in the competition. ASU is ranked top ten and well deserves it. The opponents for OSU and A&M are a couple of worlds away.

I don't mean to say that TTU is competing as closely as they should, just that the Sun Devils are among the best in the country.

[AngelSong20]

If it was just ASU and their pressure defense... but this is becoming a trend... TOs and bad shooting, especially on the road.... sigh...

[Bball Girl]

You're right Dale...but I expect Tech to play UP to their competition...something we used to do.

ASU is very impressive...the pts off the bench are amazing (I knew they were deep) more pts off the bench 32 than for the starters and only Orsillo in double figures (16). Very balanced scoring from ASU.

ASU 60
Tech 40
6 to plah

[walkaway]

61-45 ... sigh. I'll be glad when this is over. "It is sprinkling."

[Bball Girl]

4:18 Rain delay
ASU 61, Tech 45

They're putting a tarp on a wet basketball court :confused:

No shot clocks, wet court (close the roof for heaven's sake) ......

[walkaway]

Ryan Hyatt: "And now I really have seen it all. ... we'll take a two-minute break, as the world's worst grounds crew tries to put a tarp over a basketball court, and it's already wet..." "this game may have just been called, at 61-45, in the interests of safety. ... Unbelievable."

What a disaster.

[Bball Girl]

Game called & over at 4:18 ASU 61 Tech 45

[YCN]

Game called & over at 4:18 ASU 61 Tech 45They called the game, and they have a moveable roof?

You've got to be kidding me! What a disaster!

[Bball Girl]

Ryan..."now they close the roof" after the game has been called :confused:

No way could Tech have made up the difference, but it would have been good to finish the blasted game!!!!!!

Charlie....I think the experiment is over.

[YCN]

Just in time to avoid seeing several ASU players foul out. Word to the wise, do not ever agree to scheduling an outdoor game away from home.

The NCAA needs to declare this one a no-contest on the basis of conditions. To close out the game with more than 4 minutes left is outrageous.

[walkaway]

Tech's shot clock ceased working before the half.
All shot clocks ceased working early on in the 2nd half.
Rain started falling on the court at least 20 seconds before play was halted.

[Bball Girl]

I think the coaches certainly agreed to the game being called. Why they didn't stop the game when it first started raining, cover the court, and close the darn roof (it takes 4 mins), but instead they let the court get too wet.

[Dale8R]

I always figured Coach CTT should have been a hockey coach. Her line changes are nearly legendary. Briann January is tops on the club in minutes per game . . . 24.4!

I think the outdoor game wasn't that bad an idea, it just should have been done a month ago.

[tx4OU]

Now we know why Pat Summit didn't agree to the game a 2nd time.:eek:

[Bball Girl]

Wow..no post game interviews, barely got the stats - they've had electricity blips all game. Ryan is about as steamed as I've ever heard him...when he stops joking, you know it's bad.

Well ASU played a good game...Tech was just never there tonight.

[YCN]

When conditions are forseeable and a team is a home team, it is their responsibility to ensure that all reasonable measures are taken to ensure that the game can be completed safely. ASU failed the test. This should be a no-contest on the basis of that issue alone.

[sybarite]

This is so outrageous as to make commentary pointless.

[Guns Up!]

In my book, this game will have an * by it. The game didn't end, so we have no official winner. Hopefully the NCAA will use some of the minute wisdom it has and strick this one. I bet this isn't the last we hear of this.

[tx4OU]

What's up with playing indoor games outside? Although I do think they actually played these games outdoors once upon a time; Michigan State wanted to set a world record for an outdoor hockey game by hosting rival Michigan in their 70 some thousand seat football stadium a couple of years ago. The action was so far away from the seats that people just sat there and froze their tushies off. But hey, they got to be a part of a world record.:rolleyes:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/74554.jpg

Outdoor basketball should only be played in pools between the month of June and August.
http://www.comfortchannel.com/images/water_basketball_edgeH.jpg

[swok34]

I guess I don't understand why anyone would agree to play a game outside like this as opposed to playing in Arizona State's arena.

[AngelSong20]

I guess at the very least it was for a good cause. I forget which one (LOL) but it was some kind of fundraiser event of some sort (something with children maybe?)

[swok34]

There wasn't time to close the roof before the court got dangerously wet and the game was called because of concern that players would be injured.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaw/recap;_ylt=AuGNHAMJ7TK2b4kRwPxGEsRMvrYF?gid=200612 180018&prov=ap

[YCN]

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaw/recap;_ylt=AuGNHAMJ7TK2b4kRwPxGEsRMvrYF?gid=200612 180018&prov=apSomehow I think the judge would put that one in the "did the defendant just try to blow smoke up..." category.

It's easy for the press to just look past this one. They are all over the fight in the NBA last night, and the uber-furor over the practice player issue.

But ASU needs to be held accountable. This was not in any way an unpredictable event, and they failed to respond appropriately to the conditions that they dictated upon the visiting team.

This game needs to be voided for the good of the game, or in a worst-case scenario, be awarded to the visiting team for failure to exercise due dilligence.

Even if the NCAA - as usual - gives us a lecture on narcolepsy over this one - Tech needs to pursue this issue because their right to a fair game has been violated by their hosts. I cannot imagine that ASU could win this litigation upon appeal.

[tx4OU]

They pulled out the tarp but there wasn't time to close the roof before the court got dangerously wet and the game was called because of concern that players would be injured.

Do they not have meteorologists in Phoenix?
"If they'd have had a little radar or something we could have seen it coming and maybe closed the roof in time," Texas Tech coach Kristy Curry said. "Keep an eye on the tracker. We've got that on a channel back home."
You go Kristy!!

"I think it was a blast, actually," Arizona State's Danielle Orsillo said of the game's damp finish. "I think it just added more character to the game. It was really fun."

"I just laughed. You've got to laugh," Sun Devils coach Charli Turner Thorne said. "You've got to have a sense of humor. This team's been through a lot these last few weeks, so you know what, this was fun."

Yeah, it's fun until everyone is stunned looking at a player laying on the wet court with a knee injury.:eek:

[YCN]

I read the original press release for this game, and it's my understanding that if the game was to be played outdoors at a temperature at 55 degrees or below the roof would be closed. In addition, it was stipulated that inclement weather conditions would be anticipated and the roof would be closed prior to an event that would foreshorten the game.

ASU doesn't have a leg to stand on here. It's NOT an issue as to who had a "maybe" insurmountable lead, it's about fair play and equal opportunity. The door was shut on Tech tonight, but no one could possibly see the "adverse" conditions, so the outcome was determined by rain.

And if you believe that one...

In the desert, you can see adverse weather long before it arrives. If the weather conditions are confusing, you should not take the chance. It's that simple. It's the responsibility of the host, when under contract, to ensure that conditions that could have been anticipated are mitigated appropriately. ASU did not meet that test.

[dem]

I always figured Coach CTT should have been a hockey coach. Her line changes are nearly legendary.

Just in case someone might think this is an exaggeration--it isn't. She will literally sub five players out, and five others in at the same time. Bizarre, but I guess it works more often than not.

[sybarite]

Isn't there a requirement that if the home team can't provide a viable facility that they must forfeit? There is certainly no way that they can claim a victory in a rain-shortened game when they provided the court.

[tx4OU]

Just in case someone might think this is an exaggeration--it isn't. She will literally sub five players out, and five others in at the same time. Bizarre, but I guess it works more often than not.

Dem, my dad would tell me stories growing up of high school basketball coaches in western Okla., where he played, who would consistently win state championships by using this technique. Fresh legs will usually out perform heavy tired ones.

[ldlbfn]

When they played outdoors against Tennessee a couple years ago, it was also cool and windy. Even just with the wind conditions, the roof should have been closed. This will get ASU attention, though-which may be what Thorne wants from all this. Especially with the spin-oh this was fun! ASU is a good, deep team-but as stated before, players' safety may have been at risk.

[swok34]

Just in case someone might think this is an exaggeration--it isn't. She will literally sub five players out, and five others in at the same time. Bizarre, but I guess it works more often than not.

dem.....

When OU played Oral Roberts last season, their coach did the same thing; which I thought was odd because he was taking out the girls' with the hot hand offensively at the time.

You know......if this is all so funny haha to Arizona State, they should forfeit and give Texas Tech the win.

[Bball Girl]

Tech dug themselves a huge hole which they were not going to get out of with 4 to play. ASU had exactly the same environmental issues to deal with and they dealt with it. No excuses...

[YCN]

Tech dug themselves a huge hole which they were not going to get out of with 4 to play. ASU had exactly the same environmental issues to deal with and they dealt with it. No excuses...The issue is the responsibility of the home team to ensure, within reasonable expectation, that the game is completed safely. ASU failed to close the roof in time, which only takes four minutes.

I have seen teams come from farther behind than what Tech was in much less time. The outcome was not assured, but that's of little difference now. It wasn't Tech's fault that they didn't have the opportunity to have that small chance to come back to win, it was ASU's. For that reason I believe that someone needs to take them to task for their lack of preparation.

[Bball Girl]

The game, which was played outdoors at Chase Field, was called with 4:18 remaining because of rain. It is believed to be the first rainout of a basketball game.

A few minutes later, Milli Vanilli's hit song "Blame it on the Rain" filled the stadium. LOL

Not so funny
"I was very disappointed in our four seniors and their presence," Tech coach Kristy Curry said. "I think I'm very disappointed in the way they're starting halves. We just have to do a better job than what we're doing on the road."

Trailing 34-25, Tech had the ball with less than a minute to play in the first half. But Jordan Murphree had the ball stolen away at the top of the key by Danielle Orsillo. As Orsillo raced down the court, Murphree reached from behind and grabbed Orsillo by the waist.

The officials called Murphree for an intentional foul, and Orsillo hit both free throws. On the ensuing possession Aubree Johnson was fouled and made 1 of 2 free throws to give ASU a 37-25 lead at halftime.

"It was a poor decision and inexcusable by Jordan," Curry said. "Obviously, that's something that's not tolerated by our staff and something we don't teach."

Still, the Tech coach would have liked to finish the game.

"I think we were finally trying to fight our way back," she said. "I wish they would've had a radar or something, so they could have seen 10 or 12 minutes ahead of time and maybe close the roof. Keep an eye on the tracker. We have that local channel at home."Still, the Tech coach would have liked to finish the game.
Sarcasm intended

[tx4OU]

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/6287204_18_1.jpg

Hilarious display of marketing incompetence .

[dem]

So...umm...there's nothing in the rulebook about how if a game goes past the third-quarter before it's stopped by rain, it counts as official? ;)

[Bball Girl]

Hmmm...posted this on another blog, but thought it also belonged here since ASU was in foul trouble before the game was stopped.

They must have had an agreement --- we play outside on your court, we bring our Big 12 officials :)

The game was graced by ALL 3 of these guys..
Clarke Stevens, Scott Yarbrough, Scotty Herman


More from Mr. Hyatt
http://www.williamsandhyatt.com/blog.htm

Forget for the moment that the court was laid out over a sloping infield that created gaps and huge dead spots on the floor. Forget for the moment that the two goal standards were different styles, one with a shot clock and the other without. Forget that they couldn’t keep a consistent power supply to the floor clocks and had to forego the
30-second clocks for much of the game. Forget for a moment that "press row" lost power numerous times at that when the rains came a nameless radio guy almost got electrocuted.

Just remember the zany fun of a night where great college athletes took second stage to somebody’s quest for news coverage.

This game was the equivalent of a fraternity trying to stuff 10 Tri-Delts into a VW Beetle. Fun for a little bit, but then uncomfortable for those getting stuffed. I hope it was worth it to Arizona State.


More from Coach Curry about turning off the shot clocks
http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories/122006/col_122006007.shtml

"We just decided to play pick-up at that point," Curry said. "(Arizona State) was shooting the ball pretty quick, so I didn't think they were going to have a problem with it. And we couldn't handle it long enough to hold it for 30 seconds, so both teams weren't going to have a problem with the 30-second shot clocks cut off."

[DblT81]

The issue is the responsibility of the home team to ensure, within reasonable expectation, that the game is completed safely. ASU failed to close the roof in time, which only takes four minutes.

I have seen teams come from farther behind than what Tech was in much less time. The outcome was not assured, but that's of little difference now. It wasn't Tech's fault that they didn't have the opportunity to have that small chance to come back to win, it was ASU's. For that reason I believe that someone needs to take them to task for their lack of preparation.


I totally agree with you here YCN.

[CyRox98]

What a stellar officiating crew - lucky you! :rolleyes:

[swok34]

The more I read about this game, the more I wonder how the NCAA can allow it to stand as an official game.:confused:

It needs to be tossed out of the w/l column for both teams. I just can't believe they spend so much time on whether male students should be allowed to grace the court at the same time as the female athletes

but, this game and the problems that occurred we hear nothing about. Absurd.

Has Texas Tech filed any kind of "official" complaint?