Ha! Swok

[DblT81]

Swok, you've been called out for repeating *inflammatory* statements by Sherri Coale.
http://boards.espn.go.com/cgi/ncaa/request.dll?MESSAGE&room=ncb_w25&id=98050


Ha ha ha hee hee hee! http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

Those people on the ESPN board HATE the Big 12 soooo much that they are getting in a wad about ISU and Oklahoma!
I doubt Coale said the word "mandatory" but since Swok used that word to describe the situation, now Coale is labled as making *inflammatory* statements about a benign issue. It is too funny.

[swok34]

She did say that on her radio show, dblt......I would *never* say Coale said something she didn't say and she made this comment 6 weeks ago, not last week.........big, big difference. If you recall, we were all questioning if ISU was going to be able to host at that time for the subregionals.

I do not know what the NCAA rules are for hosting regionals....


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[Bark]

Swok is a naughty girl.

[DblT81]

Sorry, Swok,

I'm really the one that escalated that whole debate and they got mad at you.

And I see now they are reading this board and so the old debate about Caufield causing terrible harm to Stanford's point guard is being dug up. Any you are the target of their anger over that mess.

I'm sorry I have to laugh, but you are such a reasonable person and one of the most positive message board participants I have ever seen. For them to be upset, or whatever it is, with you because their hatred of the Big 12 is just bubbling over is soooo ridiculous. I have to laugh.

BTW-Good job Jennifer (if that was you) for your rebuttle.

[swok34]

Any you are the target of their anger over that mess

If they dug it up from last year, I am, unless they are dragging information from that post I did last night on the UConn board.

I certainly posted anywhere and everywhere LAST year when I found reference to the foul, or how rude OU's fans are. To me, this incident happened LAST YEAR; it's over, it's done......and I've been trying to stay out of it all.....though I did feel the need to let them know on the UConn board that Laneisha Caufield is not a *dirty* player. You will not find any response from me on the ESPN board about this incident, I promise.....and I, too, appreciate Jen's rebuttal about "rules for hosting the NCAA's"


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[Jennifer]

Thanks DBT, that was me. I guess someday I need to synchronize all my handles...

I swear, those darn Stanford fans (oops, they could be reading this) I mean those dear nice classy Stanford fans http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif need to get over it.

LaNeishea is a hard-nosed, gritty defensive player. Unfortunately, those things happen. I do hate it when they attack the character...

[swok34]

When you say you heard it was "mandatory", that sort of intimates a function of the Committee. If it makes any difference, I have heard Pat Summitt explain the exact same thing. She said it is written into the seeding committee's rules that *any* university which successfully bids to host a regional tournament *must* be seeded into that region, assuming they make the tournament in the first place. There is no discretion allowed. She also said that one situation will change in 2003: teams who are hosting the regionals will not be allowed to host subregionals. Therefore next year Tennessee and Stanford will play on their home courts for the regionals, but only if they win their way there out of someone else's home court

Ha......see, at least someone over there at the ESPN board is knowledgeable.

[mred]

Originally posted by swok34:
She also said that one situation will change in 2003: teams who are hosting the regionals will not be allowed to host subregionals. Therefore next year Tennessee and Stanford will play on their home courts for the regionals, but only if they win their way there out of someone else's home court

If this is in fact true, then I am extremely happy that ISU swapped years with New Mexico! http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif

[Jennifer]

And for anyone who is bored with current tourney talk...go on over to the bone-yard and check out this thread about the OU/Stanford game last year.
http://qs236.pair.com/temery/cgi-perl/uconn/wbb.pl/read/45901

Sorry Swok...I know you are sick of this. I am to, but they keep bringing it up!!

[Jennifer]

And one more thing, I've seen this posted at the boneyard in the thread above,
You don't believe or accept that Caulfield "clobbered" King - what do you do with the announcer's statement in the recent Oklahoma-Baylor game: "She (Caulfield) hammered her
(the Baylor player) and took her down." And I saw that one - the announcer was right - fortunately the Baylor player's fall did not result in injury.

I don't remember the incident they are referring to...anyone else? Big12bear, bearskin, zo?

[swok34]

I do.......I think it was Nicole Collins; I think Rosalind Ross got hammered last year in the tourney....oh yea, she has NO ACL to tear.

Jennifer....my beef last year was not that the foul was not a *hard* foul, because it was....my beef was that if the Stanford bench felt it should have been *intentional*, then it should have been addressed at the game or at least right after the game...to my knowledge, it was not addressed until Stanford got back to California. That was when I started seeing some "dirty player messages" about Laneisha Caufield. I also started seeing that OU's fans were rude, making sexist remarks.....and it all boiled down to 6 male college students who were probably stuck on campus for Christmas and they happened to be sitting right behind the bench and a row over from the Stanford fans.

Laneisha did NOT know what all had occurred until Stanford returned to the NCAA's and the media's focus on it.....that was when the Oklahoma fan base found out how Stanford and it's fans felt. When Laneisha was told, she was horrified that they felt that way and was in tears.

In the press conference, Sherri Coale was asked and her response was that there was a VCR with a copy of the play in the next room and any media could certainly follow the sports information director and watch the tape and make their own decision....she was not going to discuss it further.

I decided the best road to take was the Coale road, that is why I'm really trying to stay out of it.....it happened a year ago, it has NO place in THIS year. Hey, if OU plays Stanford, so be it.....may the best team win.

[Bob_Ballew]

It was Nicole Collins, and it may have been a hard foul, but I did not hear the radio announcer or auditorium announcer say anything bad. It must not have been too bad, she bounced right up.

[KSUron]

Yeah I saw it to. It was one of those fouls that looked worse live than it did on replay from a better angle. There was nothing vicious or out of line involved. Some of these folks need to get real. Basketball is a sport where contact is going to occur. Somtimes players are going to get hurt. Unless there is a clear and established pattern of intent to injure, you just have to accept injuries as an unfortunate part of the game. There is no such clear evidence here, and there will not be because the team does not play that way. Trying to make a big deal out of this is silly and I would bet that the players and coaches on their teams would not support the silliness.

[YCN]

One thing people should know is that I'll never post on that board as long as Stanford fans and fans of other teams want to slam Neish over that foul.

Yes it was a hard foul, but I see see 3-5 HARDER fouls virtually every Big X11 game I watch, and to say that it was dirty is simply the whining refrain of angry and frustrated souls who are looking for any reason to justify their existence on this earth.

Personally, their whining makes me ill. The don't know our players, nor do they have any intention of finding out who they are and what they are. All they want to do is violate the future a a fine Sooner who happens to be one of my favorite basketball players.

I'm done with Stanford now, and all their hangers-on and shadow-backers. Those people wouldn't understand class if it jumped up and hit them in the face with a 2X4.

I've watched the so-called foul-to-injure play against King from four different angles - and I'm sorry, but I cannot see ANY intent to injure on that play.

It's simply basketball, and I am at my wit's end of people complaining over this. Stanford complains that they've lost "their point guard" for two years now over this.

Fine, go get another.

I'm afraid they have committed the cardinal sin with me, and I won't hear any more complaints or excuses from them.

God, am I pissed about this!

[Bark]

Okay Swok, in a fit of insanity, I am carrying the King/Caulfield torch on the boneyard. Why I even want to deal with those Stanford fans is beyond me, but I'll stick it out for a while. Dopey, dogmatic Naismith and Prof are in it.

[Jennifer]

Way to go Bark! I saw your posts over there.

Who knows, if it's a slow day at work today I may chime in myself.

[Bark]

Those Stanford guys are west coast guys and don't get on until about 3-4:00ish et. At least I can get something done before then.

My central theme with dopey and dopeyer from here on out will be:

"you are trying to paddle upstream with a popsicle stick"

[swok34]

Okay Swok, in a fit of insanity, I am carrying the King/Caulfield torch on the boneyard. Why I even want to deal with those Stanford fans is beyond me, but I'll stick it out for a while.

Good luck! I have tried to keep my comments to a minimum on the UConn board, mainly because it has nothing to do with Connecticut
and I don't want to waste Nan's space. I have read what you all are doing and appreciate it.

Though I will say this, Oklahoma media and fans knew nothing of Stanford's feelings until Stanford returned for the NCAA's last year.........I have never in my life heard the Lloyd Noble Center rock the way it rocked for that game.....they did have a security guard for Laneisha.

Do you know what is customary for an opposing coach to do for the other team, i.e. card, flowers?......I know that Jennifer Cunningham tore her ACL for the 3rd time in a Texas Tech game, did the TT coaching staff do anything like this?......I do recall when an Oklahoma Christian player got knocked pretty hard in the nose, Coach Coale inquired about her the next day. But that's a local college and Coale's alma mater and her coach.

[Jennifer]

Swok, the whole card thing....I don't recall ever hearing a coach or team member refer to "We sent such and such a care" or "We received/did not receive a card from such and such".
I think that's a bunch of baloney.
Maybe Coach Coale did or maybe she didn't, but then does Tara announce that to the fans or media or what? "Well, after their guard hammered our one and only PG and ruined our chances of a great season, she didn't even send a condolence card! The nerve...". Whatever.

[DblT81]

When the Texas Tech masked rider's horse died from injuries from an auto accident last summer, the Florida St athletic dept sent flowers to Tech.

Of course, that was because the horse died.

So are the Stanford fans raising a stink because Caufield didn't apologize or OU didn't send a card? Ha! This thing gets more laughable all the time. This is approaching the all time biggest whining about a sports injury.

[Jennifer]

Yeah DBT, several of them have brought up "and Sherri Coale didn't even send a card, she's classless and that program is classless". Not a direct quote, but you get the idea.

Also saw someone say they saw Stacy Dales approach Susan King at the regional in Norman, but not Caufield. So, use that to cement their thought that Caufield has no class, etc. because they DID NOT SEE Caufield approach her. I guess their eyes were glued to her the whole time or something, as that's the only way they would know if she approached her or not. Not to mention what goes on behind the scenes--who really knows?


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