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swok34
03-12-2002, 05:16 PM
http://www.newsok.com/cgi-bin/show_article?ID=833913&TP=getmarchmadness
Given that I only read the Oklahoman if I know there is women's basketball info.......I missed this article this morning, interesting.
carolann
03-12-2002, 05:31 PM
Here is another point of view.
"Women make the team, but less often coach it" http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0312/p13s01-lehl.html
I don't see what difference it makes as long as Girls' and Women's basketball players are getting the quality coaching that they deserve. Would UConn want anyone other than Geno? ISU anyone other than Fennelly? I THINK NOT!
Being a male player, I would have loved to play for somebody like Conradt, Sharp, Mulkey, Coale, Patterson, VanderVeer, Summit, Gunter, or any of the other female coaches who are outstanding.
Jennifer
03-12-2002, 06:13 PM
OK, I may be about to get bashed here, but as a female who played basketball from 6th grade-sophomore year of college (plus fast-pitch and slow-pitch softball), I prefer to play for a MALE coach. Same reason I prefer to have a MALE boss. Not that I think females make bad coaches/bosses, but my preference is a male coach. And as a disclaimer, there are female coaches I would have loved to learn from.
Anyhow, all this male-bias crap is getting old. I don't think it matters if it's a male or female as long as it's a person who is a good fit for the program (ie Fenelly at ISU, Geno at Uconn).
DITTO!!!! Like I said, I have no problem with women in charge. All I care about is competency!
cycofan
03-12-2002, 09:50 PM
Did any of you see Outside the Lines on Sunday morning. Male coaches claim that the committee groups them in brackets so that they can beat each other. Gino said he believes it is suspicous, while Pat Summit said "I can't imagine the committee puts on the boad TN-Summitt-Female."
cycofan,
I think what the committee actually puts on the board is:
TN-Summitt-Don't Piss Her Off!
Somehow they missed that this year.
swok34
03-12-2002, 11:29 PM
hmmmmm, I preferred a female coach, actually I always had female coaches in high school for basketball and male coaches for softball and track.......
KSUron
03-12-2002, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by JK:
I don't see what difference it makes as long as Girls' and Women's basketball players are getting the quality coaching that they deserve. Would UConn want anyone other than Geno? ISU anyone other than Fennelly? I THINK NOT!
Being a male player, I would have loved to play for somebody like Conradt, Sharp, Mulkey, Coale, Patterson, VanderVeer, Summit, Gunter, or any of the other female coaches who are outstanding.
I agree with you now JK, but I'm not sure I would have seen it that way when I was in high school. It sure would have been better to play for a smart coach of any gender than the lazy dufus I played for.
Jennifer
03-13-2002, 12:48 AM
Someone on the wbbal-l had what I though thought was a good post about the whole 'men get grouped in brackets' thing, but I didn't save it.
Basically, if you know any Probability Theory and look at the possible choices and do the math...sometimes it just works out that the cards fall that way. He had a really good example that spelled it out pretty well.
cyfanatic
03-13-2002, 05:34 PM
I guess I tend to agree with most of you, in that it is credibility and qualifications that matter most, but if that were truly the case, then why do we not have more women coaching men's teams? It seems acceptable for men to coach a women's team, but not for women to coach men's teams. I think the glass ceiling is alive and well in that arena.
Big12Bear
03-13-2002, 05:36 PM
I must have somehow missed this post earlier, but I agree with everything Jennifer had to say. Good post!
Jennifer
03-13-2002, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by cyfanatic:
I guess I tend to agree with most of you, in that it is credibility and qualifications that matter most, but if that were truly the case, then why do we not have more women coaching men's teams? It seems acceptable for men to coach a women's team, but not for women to coach men's teams. I think the glass ceiling is alive and well in that arena.
I've seen this brought up elsewhere, and one thing that someone mentioned in response is how many female coaches would actually WANT to coach a men's team? Increased pressure to win or you're toast, players leaving early, more media spotlight (not always a good thing), grumpier (or fickle) fans, etc.
KSUron
03-13-2002, 06:10 PM
I agree that there is a barrier to women coaching big time men's teams. I think the barrier is lack of courage and lack of vision not necessarily prejudice. (although I think thats a part of it) Its never SAFE to be a pioneer. What we need is an AD who is MAN enough to step out from the crowd and make the choice and a Coach who is WOMEN enough to take the challenge. I'd bet the WOMEN is out there, high risk and pressure to win notwithstanding. I just don't think we have seen the AD who is MAN or WOMEN enough to take their end of the risk YET. I heard some Nebraska fans suggest Pat Summit to replace Danny Nee when their men's job came open. I don't think all of them were joking. I have no doubt that a coach like her or others could be successfull in D1 men's basketball. I think it would be great fun and create great attention for a big time D1 program to hire someone like Jody Conradt.
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