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First I said I was tired of Tennessee fans complaining about playing in Ames.
Now Geno is whining about it, and he's not even in the region!
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RaiderPower1
03-12-2002, 02:28 PM
hahaha, that's funny.
Press
03-12-2002, 02:34 PM
It seems like he needs to worry about his bracket and just hope someone doesn't have a miracle game and knock him off his high-horse. Since when has the committee ever moved a regional host out of thier region just because it's home court advantage? I bet when Tennessee hosts again in a few years, they won't think they need to move anywhere.
DblT81
03-12-2002, 02:50 PM
Tennessee and Stanford both host regionals next year. Is Geno posturing that the host school should be sent elsewhere for the subregional in case his young team must go to one of the those regions next year????
Geno needs to mine his own business.
1) If the rules are that if a team gets to host a regional, then they are automatics in that bracket, there should be no discussion. Need to discuss rule changes, Geno? Do it after the tourney.
2) Tennessee got robbed? Yeah maybe, but it's too late and too bad.
Okay, I know Geno has never liked the hosting/regional rule. He has said that several times prior to 3/11 seeding, but his comments don't do much for me. The TN seeding comment? Don't know why he said that, but he has always spoken his mind about anything. Maybe there's hidden posturing/positioning, I don't know of.
Oh well, all I've got to say is "Geno, mind your own business".
swok34
03-12-2002, 03:14 PM
I do agree that there should no "home site" at all for regionals and if I'm not mistaken, that will be discontinued in 2004.
Really, even subregionals are unfair, but that is particularly an attendance issue.
Tennessee had lost 3 of their last 10, and 2 of those were back to back with Texas and Vanderbilt, before losing in the SEC tourney.
Jennifer
03-12-2002, 03:22 PM
Seems like that rule was never a problem until now, when the All Mighty Lady Vols are affected.
Like Bark says, if Geno has a problem w/ the rules, then discuss it after the season (or it should have been addressed already).
As far as Tn and Vandy both being in that region....tough luck I suppose. Deal with it. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif
You don't hear any Tech, OU, or CU fans complaining about being 4, 1, and 3 in the same region.
Have to wonder if next year, ISU gets to go to Knoxville for regionals.
Swok, you're too nice. And I agree with both of your points.
I just think Auriemma should not address these things now and not through the media.
swok34
03-12-2002, 03:29 PM
Bark, do you know what they mean by this? Isn't Villanova a Big East team?
14) A Villanova vs. Oklahoma second round game would provide as big a contrast in styles as exists in the field of 64.
Big12Bear
03-12-2002, 03:31 PM
Can you imagine how mad Summitt is going to be after ISU takes them out in Ames. I'd like to be a fly on the wall in that postgame PC.
Originally posted by Jennifer:
You don't hear any Tech, OU, or CU fans complaining about being 4, 1, and 3 in the same region.
Have to wonder if next year, ISU gets to go to Knoxville for regionals.
Point 1: Not entirely true. I've even done some complaining on their behalf. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif But it certainly isn't as vocal, especially since we realize that it certainly helps our chances of getting a FF team out of there. But there's a difference between complaining about something that the committee could have done differently (like the "B12 Tourney" West region or the "SEC tourney" Midwest region) and complaining about something that rules dictate (ISU playing at home in the regional). Like Bark said, if you have a problem with that then try to get the rules changed. Don't whine about the committee doing something they had to do.
Point #2: I wouldn't be surprised, and ISU fans won't be complaining. We know we got a sweet deal this time around (hopefully we'll take advantage of it) and we'll fully accept that what goes around comes around.
Jennifer
03-12-2002, 03:38 PM
Swok--
I think they are referring to Villanova's slow, deliberate style of play. From what I recall reading in the past, they are never a run n gun team. They like to slow things down, run a set offense, etc.
Jennifer
03-12-2002, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by mred:
Point 1: Not entirely true. I've even done some complaining on their behalf. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif But it certainly isn't as vocal, especially since we realize that it certainly helps our chances of getting a FF team out of there.
Rather, I should say you don't hear the coaches/teams complaining, at least not publicly.
Swok asked about the big contrast between Villanova & Oklahoma.
Villanova is a very, very disciplined team. If (as in the case of this match up) 'Nova is deficient in athleticism, muscle and speed, look for them to slow the game way down, take shots within the last five seconds of the clock, and shoot a lot of three's.
This is a strategy that many over-matched teams employ, but 'Nova is really good at it. It can work if 1)they make their shots and 2) they don't get too far behind and 3) the Sooners do not get impatient and start doing things outside of their game plan.
I don't think you have too much to be concerned about them, even though 'Nova is really good at doing this, because all three points above have to happen. And point three is in Sherri's control. But if they are hitting their three's, and they'll shoot a bunch of them, it will be interesting for a while.
ps. Boy did Mred nail me today!
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swok34
03-12-2002, 03:52 PM
I, as a fan, am not entirely crazy about having 3 Big XII host teams in the West Region......just would be nice to play someone else, ya know?......and then if we get out of the West, I think it's Baylor on the other side. If we weren't all just so darn good, they may have been able to sprinkle us around a bit more.
http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif
I do agree that the committee shouldn't have put Tenn & Vandy together in the same region, that would be similiar to putting OU & BU in a regional final, rather than meeting at the final four. And you would think the #1 and #2 teams of a conference would be in seperate regions.....but, like Mary whateverhernameis said....
they would have had to drop Tennessee's seed even lower to accommodate that.
Jennifer
03-12-2002, 03:58 PM
It would be pretty crazy (Big 12 Tourney II) if OU had to beat Tech, Colorado, and then Baylor to make the final.
But it's very very possible.
What a great chance to showcase the Big 12 anyway!
Originally posted by Jennifer:
It would be pretty crazy (Big 12 Tourney II) if OU had to beat Tech, Colorado, and then Baylor to make the final.
But it's very very possible.
What a great chance to showcase the Big 12 anyway!
And then face ISU in the final! (But I may be dreaming a bit http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif )
swok34
03-12-2002, 04:07 PM
jennifer, I suspect it's gonna be OU, Colorado, Texas Tech and Stanford up in Idaho.......good, everyone can cheer on Colorado as they beat Stanford...
I think that the "sprinkling" conference team around stuff in the past has caused more problems.
For example, if the committee tried to separate Vandy & TN, despite rating them the fourth and fifth best teams, some other bracket would go south. Since Vandy and TN we're determined fourth and fifth, (like Jennifer says: "Tough"). Once you start making adjustments for subjective purposes, you have to keep on making them and then the risk of having a completely screwy bracket is enhanced tremendously, because all adjustment become progressively more subjective.
I suspect this has been done in the past, and thus, the TN complaint, as they were expecting the same treatment (TN is great at living in the past). But to do the bracketing right it has to stop. The key is the sequence of ranking and employing the "S" seeding methodology. Then saying "Tough" to those who complain. All the rationale that Jerimiah comes up with is spin.
Swok & Jennifer,
Boston College is a pretty gritty team too. Though they have to get by a #12 and Texas Tech to get to you. FYI, their somewhat similar to OU in style and types of players per position.
Two things: 1) in each position, you're better and 2) they lost their best player, Gottstein, to an ACL early in the year. They'll miss Gottstein, but they've won most of their games without her.
Regardless, they're well coached, play hard for 40, and they never give up.
Just thought of this: Stacy (Bam Bam) will know the MO of both of these two Big East teams, so the Sooners will for sure not be suprised (tactically) if either faces you.
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swok34
03-12-2002, 04:41 PM
Texas Tech is pretty good at home, they beat Vanderbilt there earlier in the season....and have Big XII conference losses only to Colorado, and Oklahoma on their court...
not saying it can't happen......
could turn out to be an amazing thing for Hansmeyer to have attended the FF's as a player, and a assistant coach for 2 completely different teams.
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