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H2H
02-23-2006, 05:15 PM
is there someone or something you know about the WNIT that wouldn't allow us to get in? Worse case we would be 15-13 and I think we win at least one more game MU/KSU/1st rd. Last year's WNIT took A&M at 14-14 with 4 league wins and same RPI/SOS range. Wake Forest was 15-14 (13-14 reg. season) and 3 league wins. Kentucky at 14-14 with 4 league wins, a Florida team that was 14-14. The other thing is that all those .500 won a couple rounds so they will not look twice and say 'well those .500 teams didn't do well'.

For the WNIT it's about $$$$$$. Have a name and a record that qualifies, write the check and we know Mr. Perkins can do that so I think the Jayhawks are in the WNIT.

Maybe I'm wrong but I think we go postseason.

GO KU!

AngelSong20
02-23-2006, 05:52 PM
And well you should go postseason. Kemp is scary good and I think the only thing that stopped her last night was Alesha's 3 that made it a 7-point game. Without that, I think you would have kept going in to her and she would have kept hitting that little hook over our defenders. KU should have a few good wins left I think.

swok34
02-23-2006, 10:14 PM
h2h.....

I don't know much of anything. What, I fooled you? :D

I actually have no idea, I'm curious how many the WNIT would take though?
Say the Big XII managed to slug in the door with 5 NCAA teams. Would the WNIT take the next 4?

Maybe YCN or someone more adversed in the ways of the committee will stumble into this thread........mr. stat man, do we get 4 or 5 NCAA bids?

And perhaps I'm completely mistaken about how they choose?

H2H
02-23-2006, 10:39 PM
You OU folks are tricky......... ;)

Swok since you don't have to worry about your team making a postseason. I've been trying to do some homework to see our chances... :)

From a quick gathering of just the major conf.'s there would be 2 or 3 teams in the SEC, 4 or 5 from us, 2 ACC, 2 Big 11 and 3 Big East. That's going off some of these NCAA projections. That makes up about half the field.

If we pull off a couple of spoilers as I think we will, it won't matter we will be playing some postseason hoops!

GO :KU:

YCN
02-24-2006, 08:20 AM
There's a poster who is apparently respected over on the Full Court college board that claims that the WNIT is expanding to 40 teams this year, which would basically mean that any Big 12 team without a losing season record that didn't make the NCAA's would probably get an invite.

But this poster when pressed by me refused to name a source for the information and continued to insist that there would be a total of four "play-in games". That makes zero sense to me, since four games would still leave 36, and my entire understanding of "play-in" games is that they are used to trim a field to a full bracket of 8, 16, 32, 64, whatever. But play four to get the field to 36? It doesn't compute, therefore I don't trust what that poster said, respected or not.

Speaking of the WNIT, I'm very puzzled that the NCAA would buy the men's NIT and not the women's. Supposedly they felt that there was a potential threat to the integrity of their tournament if they didn't buy out the men's NIT, what about the women?

Or maybe it's because the NCAA continues to further blur the line between commercial intent and stewardship of the sport, in an era where you have to wonder just exactly where there principal interests lie.

CYMAN
02-24-2006, 08:56 AM
I also saw an announcement (cannot remember from where :p ) that they were expanding to 40 teams. I think that it is legit that they are expanding to 40 teams

Scamp
02-24-2006, 09:16 AM
...Teams need only to finish with a .500 record or better to be considered for the WNIT's field, currently at 32 teams but possibly expanding to 40 this season.

The field for the 2006 WNIT is scheduled to be announced following the NCAA's revealing of its 64-team tournament field March 13. The WNIT's first round is expected to begin March 15 with the championship game scheduled for no later than March 31. ...

http://www.registerguard.com/news/2006/02/15/d1.sp.uowomen.0215.p1.php?section=archiveWill the NCAA's selections determine whether the WNIT is a 32 or 40-team tournament? :confused:

swok34
02-24-2006, 09:35 AM
currently at 32 teams but possibly expanding to 40 this season.

so, no one knows? And when will this be decided? I don't understand why the NCAA field is important in the number of teams to play in the WNIT.

Gator
02-24-2006, 01:02 PM
Another interesting article in the Coaching Women's Basketball publication - from the WBCA.

In an article on the WNIT, there are quotes about the preseason WNIT selection which seem to also apply to the post season WNIT:

"The key to the success is selection the right teams. If we don't get the right teams, good match-ups and people to buy tickets then we can't pay for the teams travel and expenses .... that means finding schools willing and able to host and put up a revenue guarantee ... there have been years it's lost money - 80 grand. but over the years when we have had some profits, we've worked to put those away so in the down years, we'd survive... Interesting enough, the events do include revenue sharing amongst the teams."

Specifically about the post season the article says: "we've tried to select the top remaining teams .... but in reality, the NCAA does not pick the top 64 in the NCAA because every conference has an at large bid. There are people that, if you looked at the RPIs, could be #40 but based on the format of the NCAA, those teams are left out." The article also talks about the 2nd and 3rd teams in mid level conferences which get only their tourney champs to the NCAA as being prime candidates for the post season, particularily teams which were conference play champions but lost in the tournament.

And one last comment: "If a program is interested in participating in the WNIT, it helps to have a proactive Athletic Director."

JohnHenry
02-24-2006, 01:45 PM
When the men's tourney went to 40 teams way back in the early 80's, the bottom 4 seeds in each region had to "play-in" in the 1st round ( 2 games in each region). Meaning 8 total play-in games. The top 2 seeds in each region played the winners of those 2 games.

FWIW.

Aggieland
02-24-2006, 02:03 PM
What is this "full court college board" you speak of?

YCN
02-24-2006, 02:32 PM
What is this "full court college board" you speak of?It gets very little traffic, most of the traffic is on the high schools/recruiting and WNBA boards.

http://mb20.scout.com/ffullcourtfrm2

Aggieland
02-24-2006, 02:45 PM
ahhh....ok
Thanks, YCN!