What happened to K-State!

[YCN]

You led by 16 at halftime and lost by 10 to Saint Joseph's of the Atlantic 10?

What on earth happened for a collapse like that to occur? I figured KSU as the least likely Big 12 team to lose today.

You guys have been playing such great ball so far, it caught me by surprise!
I know that Saint Joe's was unbeaten, but I didn't expect them to come out of this tussle as the unbeaten.

What am I missing?

[H2H]

It's looks like they went stone cold in the 2nd half.

Hamlin might be the most productive player...22 mins, 22 pts and 5 fouls. When that kid learns how to play without fouling....LOOK OUT!!!

[wbbcatfan]

Just got back from the game. Actually the cats were only up by 12 at the half though they led by as much as 16 during the first half..St. Joseph's was able to put together a run before the end of the first half to cut into the lead and I think that run ultimately led to the meltdown in the second half. Credit St. Joseph's, they never caved at anytime. They were a very scrappy team. K-State was unable to generate much offense when they needed it most in the second half, plus they could not get any key defensive stops. The combination was lethal. Neither Shalee Lehning nor Coggins scored and I think that was also key. Shalee did some nice things otherwise but in past games her drives to the basket and even when not scoring the uncertaity of what she is going to do with the ball has really caused problems for defenses. Now comes the true test of character for a young team. How do they respond next time on the floor. Even in loss they are a very fun team to watch, very aggressive going after loose balls and driving the basket. They still have alot to learn on defense as there were to many easy buckets given up tonight. If you've got to learn the hard way now is the time to do it not once conference play begins.

[catfan28]

Growing pains are exactly that................painful.

But as long as we learn from them..........we'll be OK.

St.Joseph has a really nice team..............good passers and very good at the fundamentals.

We simple hit the panic button and the last 13 minutes were a nightmare. We we're ouscored 40-13 down the stretch because of poor post defense and Coach P waited too long to settle our team down......because we started to panic on the offensive end.

The nice thing is that this only counts as ONE loss...............you learn from it and you move on.

Hopefully we can bounce back on knock off tradition rich La Tech on Tuesday.

Go Cats !!!!

[Jimi]

This was a game that featured some good passing and some good defense. It also featured some very poor defense. At times we were not on the same page. Twice late we left a three point shooter WAY open and those 6 points really hurt. We had multiple chances but did not execute. They say the best thing about freshman is they become sophs. If I go by Claire tonight I'm not sure I want to see them as Juniors. :rolleyes:

Go Wildcats!!

[Jimi]

Btw, Catfan is right about growing pains. We went through some of this in 2001 but in a different way. With all the new players and how they are responding the coaches are having to adjust their thinking and strategy also. There is both good and bad when your bench scores 50% or more of your points.

I still love this team.

[carbonake]

St. Joe's also put on some high pressure, full court defense in the second half which really rattled the 'Cats. Hamlin had a good game, but it seemed like everyone else was having a tough night. I just keep thinking this is a really young team, and it's actually surprising that they haven't lost before now (like on the road). There were still some exciting plays, the 'Cats just couldn't get it done down the stretch. I'm sure I could come up with all kinds of excuses, but I get the idea that these kids don't like excuses. They just want to get it done. I appreciate that about them. These kids have got something special about them. Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I'm looking forward to the next four years. I'm looking forward to Tuesday and La Tech and the response of this team to this loss.

[catfan28]

Carbonake................you are NOT being overly optimistic. This is a special team because of the type of players we have. They are tough nosed ball players that are used to winning.

We have to remember most of the girls are 18 and 19 years olds..............they are gonna make mistakes and they have to learn from mistakes just like everyone else.

But it still has to be tough to lose..............especially for Shalee Lehning - who hadn't lost a game she played in since 2002.

Her high school team won their last 53 straight and now she has to feel what it's like to lose again.

But again .............. it's that word again .......... growing pains...............and if you GROW from the PAINS that you suffer.............you become one heck of a team.

[Jimi]

This team is fun to watch. I am VERY impressed with Hamlin and Lehning. They are gamers that I like to see on the floor even when they are not scoring. The entire frosh class is impressive. I will be in my seats supporting the team every chance I get.

Kaaaaay Essssssss Youuuuuuuu WILDCATS!!!

[finalanswer]

The past 4 years the talent has been able to overcome some very suspect coaching in Manhattan. That won't be the case this year. Road wins in the Big 12 will be non-existant, and very few home wins will be enjoyed also.

[YCN]

??????????

[sybarite]

K-State will be just fine once they get a little experience.

[Mcteach]

Final answer have you seen this new team play? :ksu:

[finalanswer]

I have watched all of the Kansas girls since they were 12 years old. They are very strong players for the state of Kansas. But there are no future WNBA players among them, no future Big 12 all-time leading scorers among them, no future NCAA 3 point shooting champions among them. We need to be realistic about what graduated. This new team may be fun to watch, but to expect many Big 12 wins this year is a bit of a reach. Where on the road would you think this team would be favored?
If we measure success by NCAA tournament wins, what other team in the country had that much talent and fizzled pretty much every year? They are not well coached. I am not the only person out there with that opinion.

[wbbcatfan]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However this is probably not the best forum to voice negativity the first time you post. There is plenty of negativity on boards at other locations. Over the last four years it is true that K-State did not go as deeply into the tournament as one would hope. However in each of those four years their were 60 other teams that you could probably say the same thing about. Can Patterson coach the big wins? Would the recruits she had in the last four years done as well or better with another coach? I doubt any of them would have been better for another team. Not because I think Patterson is the best coach in the country, there are to many good coaches to put her in that category, but because she knows how to develop local talent to a very high degree. Whether this group wins 2 games or 20 games they are a great bunch of young players to watch. If you will remember correctly their weren't a bunch of colleges knocking on Nicole Ohlde's door when Patterson picked her up. I think we are looking at several freshman with similar talent. Not nationally pursured but great raw material and that is what Patterson is very good at developing. If you feel otherwise then I'm fine with that also. I won't have to stand in line behind you to get tickets :)

[finalanswer]

Points well taken.
However, I would not describe Laurie Koehn, Megan Mahoney and Kendra Wecker as "raw" when they arrived.
I would not describe Shalee Lehnning as "raw" either. They are skilled players.
What you describe as negative, I would call thought-provoking.
I have purchased many tickets to watch KSU women play, so you may already have waited in line behind me. I was even there the year Ohlde was a freshman, prior to the bandwagon. Me and about 100 others.

[Jimi]

I was even there the year Ohlde was a freshman, prior to the bandwagon. Me and about 100 others.
My wife and I were 2 of less than 200 season ticket holders that year. We have not missed many games since.

But you did not answer the question about if you have seen this years team play or not. ;)

I don't always understand or agree with Coach Patterson's moves but she has about 180 more NCAA Division 1 wins than I do. It does not keep me from having my own opinions but I'll take mine with a grain of salt. I hope for Kansas State's, (and the players sake's) she and the team give you a positive surprise this year.

Go K-State!

[wbbcatfan]

I have attended almost every home K-State game since 1994, season ticket holder only when the seats were scarce but a long time supporter of this Big 12 team. The caliber of play has been elevated considerably over that period of time and this team is not going to be taking a step back. This team has as much potential as the team we all grew to love over the last four years. The grit and drive of this group is rivialed only by what we have seen with the graduation of last years group. Talent in high school and success at the Division I level is not a sure thing for Lori Koehn or Kendra Wecker. It was the coaching, determination, work ethic all which developed them into WNBA caliber players. Patterson was an integral part of that development. One of the most important things that Patterson brings is the ability to have players meld together as a unit. From that standpoint I think this years team has come together more quickly with the "team first" concept than possibly did the previous team. They distribute the ball as well as any team I've watched in purple in the last 10 years.

[catfan28]

Final answer................if you think this team isn't capable of winning very many conference games this year...........I've got many a land I wanna sell ya.

A simply clueless post.

These girls all around have an incredible amount of talent and have HEARTS larger than the average person. Their will and determination alone is worth 10-15 points a game.

And when they add Ashley Sweat-who by the way scored 33 last Tuesday in her hs senior year debut-and sharp shooting Kari Kincaid...........they'll be PLENTY of reasons to stand in line for tickets.

But if your gonna cop out on them now.................well fine with me.........

Buh-Bye !!! :p

[finalanswer]

catfan28--Thanks for your comments. They are about what I would have expected.
I don't believe I care to buy any land from you. I don't have boots tall enough to wade through it due to the you know what.
I don't see any point commenting on high school players.
I admire the players from K-State. Nothing I have said has been critical of any of them. I just don't think they will be ready to win many games in the Big 12 this year. Thay are doing well in their non-conference games. I expect that to continue.
I admire all college athletes. Pretty much all of them have a lot of determination and want to win or they wouldn't have gotten to this point. I don't think the girls at K-State want to win any more, or work any harder than the girls at KU, Colorado, Texas or any other school. Their hearts are probably the same size (please stop using worn-out cliches).
I don't think the game coaching is a strength with the KSU women. Other comments have alluded to this in the thread.
To answer another question posed: I have been to two KSU games this year--Emporia State and Delaware State. I hope that is enough to allow me to comment.

[bigred]

How many wins can KSU get this year in the Big 12?

Road wins will come hard, if any. Naw, they should beat CU out there and OSU is a patsy. ISU has a way to go, but they are always tough at home. One win on the road and five at home to go 6 and 10.

Finalanswer will get a shot to prove his predicting prowess once the Big 12 season starts.

Wait until Chipper gets a hold of you, finalanswer, he'll tear you to shreds!

[finalanswer]

Bigred, your prediction of 6 Big 12 wins for the KSU women is reasonable, but still a little high in my opinion for this year.
Where are your predictions for the rest of the league? How about the Lady Huskers? Don't they return almost everyone? I went to 3 of their games last year, and I thought they would be pretty strong this year. How was the South Dakota State game explained? 19 point loss? At home? :eek: That surely was not expected.

[bball3051]

how is sarah white (Topeka Washburn Rural) doing at Nebraska?

[bigred]

The north teams are much weaker than the south teams. From what I've seen on tv and score wise, no north team will come close to Baylor, Tech, TX and OU. Especially on the road. One of the north teams might upset one of the south teams at their own pit, but that is a stretch. Even A&M is competitive and would do well in the north. OSU is bringing up the rear.

With all that in mind, the north teams will play some very good games against each other. On paper NU should look good and expectations are high, but talk is talk. They did lose Jelena Spiric to ACL injuries, Jelena was a very heady player and will be missed.

NU got thrashed by SDSU in the season opener, very embarassing. SDSU is a provisional D-I after winning D-II a few years back. Losses like that at home are blamed on the coach. But to SDSU's credit, they looked sharp and well coached.

NU did put a thrashing on Creighton at home, one would hope to expect that. However, it is the battle of Nebraska and emotions run high playing for such honors.

They handled Texas A&M-Corpus in a workman like manner, kept the focus and beat a team they should beat. LSU beat them in the second half by 19, LSU was a good test for playing teams in the Big 12 south. That is how good the south is. Stars abound in the south and if playing, will determine the outcome of many a game.

NU went to Minnesota and got beat by several points. They played like a team on the road, down by 21 in the first half, came roaring back only to run out of gas. NU is usually not a good road team. It takes an extraordinary effort on the road to win, most of the time they don't have that.

NU is rotating 7 or 8, usually Kiera, Jessica, Kelsey, Chelsea and Toya start with Danielle, Elena off the bench and the others on the bench depending on needs, TJ, Sarah and Ashley.

Hope that answers some of your questions, finalanswer and 3051. :)

[bball3051]

thanks big red.

[elfdenmom]

I don't think that talent is the sole criteria for winning. A team that lacks chemistry (that elusive ideal) will not prevail season long without it, regardless of the talent. Conversly, a team with chemistry and mediocre talent can go a very long way. Deb seems to do a very good job of promoting good chemistry with her teams.

[wbbcatfan]

I totally agree Elfdenmom. That was more my point of the previous post. A team that has that chemistry can go along way and I think we saw that last year with Michigan State. A team that lacked the name star but had great chemistry. My hopes for this K-State team may prove to be dead wrong but this team as a whole are quicker and better defenders for their youth than anything we've seen in the past. If you take speed, fudamentally sound skills and great chemistry you can win a lot of games that according to the experts shouldn't have happened...and that's why they play the games!

[ChipperF1]

"how is sarah white (Topeka Washburn Rural) doing at Nebraska?

Sarah White was like most freshmen last season. She was overmatched in many instances. She's still learning her way, but she was a scrapper and forced into many situation where she was in the thick of the fight.
This season, she's improved but is learning a couple of new positions. She's not heavy in the rotation but if she improves, she'll be a very solid role player. I like the attitude she showed last year, and I'm sure it carried over.

As far as Kansas State's prospects. I think Finalanswer has a realistic view in some areas, and other areas have yet to be seen.
KSU has seen a brilliant group of four players come and go in the last two season. Ohlde, Wecker, Koehn and Mahoney formed an excellent core group. The Wildcats where never out of the game with those four on the floor. It is a fair point that this group coming in, even with all-state and AAU honors, will have to step lively to do what those four did.
One thing about K-Staters in the last three or four years is the folks have embraced this team, and when you say that they may not be as good, they'll take it personal a little bit. I've gotten my share of raspberries from the K-State fans, and rightfully so. But the examination for this season will be, will the embrace continue if this team has an Agler-like season?

"This new team may be fun to watch, but to expect many Big 12 wins this year is a bit of a reach.

I have a feeling it will be hard for everybody, not just KSU. Once you get past Baylor, Texas, Texas Tech and Oklahoma, you have a group of teams who are about even. Between Kansas State, Iowa State, Nebraska, Kansas, Texas A&M, and Missouri, you have teams each with a strong player or player, each with young potential and each with weaknesses to work through.
The gang of six will beat each other pretty good, be it home or road. I don't think any game within that group is out of reach for anybody. Not even the Gang Of Four is completely untouchable, although beating each of them will be more difficult as the conference season progresses.

"I don't think the game coaching is a strength with the KSU women.

I don't 100% agree with this. As an opponent, I think Deb Patterson's done a good job. Her teams play to the limit of their ability and she has a good pulse on her team and the staff is very solid.
My only knock on Patterson is that she tends to misread the situation in a game and miss the adjustment, but more often than not the team is ready to play.
As far as where Kansas State has ended up in the last few seasons? I don't think that should be entirely a knock on Deb Patterson. The Bronx cheer will come from Manhattan, but many of those expectations where built on rankings that weren't realistic.
I've always said KSU in the golden age of Ohlde, Wecker, Koehn and Mahoney was a definite Top 25 team but nowhere near a Final Four team, and they weren't. The issue with Kansas State was athleticism and depth. They didn't have enough of either to get past the the round of 16. All of "Their will and determination alone" isn't going to beat a team with will, determination and superior firepower.

My prediction for Kansas State: 7-9, tied for 5th place with Iowa State on that NCAA bubble. I see a team similar to 2001-2002. The young kids are going to come in and make an impact and win some game they shouldn't win. Having seen a few of their new arrivals, I see them being the fulcrum of this team just like Wecker, Koehn and Mahoney joined with Ohlde and became the fulcrum of that team. What would really help KSU is if veteran talent like Claire Coggins and Twiggy McIntyre step their games up. The biggest weakness of KSU is the returning players. They now have to step in to expanded roles and many of them struggled with the lesser role they've had in the last year or two.

"Where are your predictions for the rest of the league?
Baylor is the front runner and I don't think they are getting the respect they've earned nationally in some cases. The Bears didn't win a national championship with pixie dust and a fairy godmother.

After them Texas, who had a rough week but I like the way they played against Duke. And I'm a big fan of Arriaran and Cortijo. Those two have a lot of guts and composure in addition to talent. The Longhorns needs their best weapons to get healthy.

Oklahoma has impressed me. Courtney Paris is as advertised. But the team now has to continue to improve on the perimeter and they have get Leah Rush onboard with whatever her role is. I don't understand how hard it could be to integrate Rush into this deal. She's a prime time player and I think once they get her moving, OU gets moving.

Texas Tech is 1-5 for one reason. Offense.
Although I saw a ray of light against Stanford. An aggressive Erin Grant having confidence in her ability to put the ball in the basket. Have #14 attack that basket and encourage her to get a little greedy.

After that..its a crap shoot. KSU and ISU have a good blend of youth and experience. A bonus for ISU is Bill Fennelly, who just the best at getting more from a lot of second tier athletes.

Crystal Kemp and some coming young prospects could make the future now at Kansas. But I see them being a year away.

Nebraska? My lasses best player is a true freshman right now. This team needs a veteran to step up and become a consistent leader. A lot of Nebraska's sleepy start to the season can be traced to that. Its been kind of normal over the last two seasons. The Huskers open the year with a tepid level of intensity and then start sparking up by around 7-8 games in.
There's not enough ability in critical areas of the game for this team to move into the NCAA tournament class at this point. Nebraska has the league's softest interior players. The Huskers are not a good rebounding team. They are not a good defensive team and they lack the ganas to win road games against a team that may be a level above them.

Texas A&M has a lot of talent and potential, but I think the grind of conference play will expose the dents. Maybe WNIT this year

Missouri is in a similar boat to TAMU.

OSU and Colorado. Give them a couple of years. They are rebuilding.

[catfan28]

K-State 77
LaTech 66

All 4 freshman start and sensational newcomer Shalee Lehning leads the way with 20 rebounds..............yes a 5'9'' point guard with TWENTY rebounds......9 points and 8 assists.


And that my friends....................is my.............


"FINAL ANSWER". :D

[finalanswer]

catfan28, I did not realize until your last post that you are afflicted with SRD. That is SELECTIVE READING DISORDER. I am sorry for your problem. :( I will help you out by copying some of my previous quotes...
Thay are doing well in their non-conference games. I expect that to continue.
I would not describe Shalee Lehnning as "raw" either....(she is) skilled player.
If you actually read everything I write, you may find some valuable information.

I am happy for KSU and not surprised by their win (see previous quote). Going into it, it certainly was a game it appeared they could lose.
Shalee Lehnning appears to have a great future ahead of her. My only surprise is that it took her as many games as it did to start.
I don't have any idea how someone that size gets 20 rebounds in a game. (I would imagine the La Tech coaches may bring that up in practice today, and possibly KSU coaches also). I would be somewhat concerned when I see she played 40 minutes. In seasons past, Coach P has a tendency to not rotate players much and this can lead to late-season physical problems.

I am still not backing off my Big 12 predictions based on one very good win. It is a difficult league, and there will be no easy games for the teams below the "upper echelon".

I will be here throughout the season with a big target on my chest. I will give you plenty to respond to. Fire away when you can, but you may want to be prepared to receive a little also.

By the way catfan28, to call someone an "idiot" online probably says more about you than it does me.

On a different note, I could not find anything about Claire Coggins. Perhaps I just missed it, but was she injured? Anyone know why she did not play? :confused:

[Cat-swishhh]

I'm all ears (and large ones at last). I've read what the media has to say about why Claire didn't play last night. Since you seem to have the answers...what do you know about the situation. Please enlighten....

[bball3051]

thanks chipperf1 for the update on White.

[bigred]

Claire was "lost in space" on defense. Her attitude gets in the way. Waaahhhhh, I can't score so I might as well give up on "D", too!

A shot across the bow, if you will, from H.M.S. Patterson.

[finalanswer]

Cat-swishhh, I am trying to find the answer for you, but my calls in to Coach P have gone unanswered. I wonder why???

Actually, I don't care to speculate. I never said I had all the answers, but I am flattered you think I might.

Seriously, I hate to see anyone get in the LadyCathouse (doghouse), especially someone with Claire's mentality. She does need more court discipline, but you don't want to stifle that enthusiasm. I could see not starting her, and limiting her playing time to send her a message. But to sit her the whole game is more like embarassment. It will be interesting to see how she responds.

Coach P really owes Twiggy and Shalee big time. They kept her from having to answer many questions about Claire. I wish someone would ask her the same question you asked me.

[Waylontheman]

I swear I never have really saw the hype surrounded Coggins(she has skills but most of time I saw her she looked liked she liked the ball in her hands ALOT). Deb has always seemed to love her but she just never really impressed me. And maybe benching her is a good idea however if she has a personality like I think she does she might just be a baby about the whole thing. Hopefully opposite happens.

As a Kansas fan I know first hand out what an attitude can play in a players performance. ANYONE REMEMBER LAUREN ERVIN??????? The No. 2 player out of High School a few years back? You may she didn't do a whole lot her Frosh year...just started a fist fight at Mizzou..... But she of course bolted when Bonnie hit the town. God forbid you have to work and use your talents! I haven't looked to see how she is at UNLV this year but I prefer to FORGET her!

[wbbcatfan]

I wouldn't want to speculate either on the reason for Claire not playing last night. This much I do know from the games I've seen in Manhattan, there is something not right with her. It could be attitude, it could be physical, it could be personal problems. She hasn't seemed to want the ball and has not been effective on defense. In the past years she was an excellent defender getting many steals and disrupting passing lanes almost every time down the floor. It could also be that there is a lot more expected of her than she is able to deliver. In the past she could be play the supporting role and not deliver the leadership that is expected of the upper classman. Some young people relish that opportunity others withdraw and hate it. If she prefers the supporting role rather than leadership I hope she has that opportunity. She has been alot of fun to watch when at her best.

[ChipperF1]

"Claire was "lost in space" on defense. Her attitude gets in the way. Waaahhhhh, I can't score so I might as well give up on "D", too!

I know a rather prominent part of the Nebraska lineup who does the same thing.

[wwi_flying_ace_17]

As a Kansas fan I know first hand out what an attitude can play in a players performance. ANYONE REMEMBER LAUREN ERVIN??????? The No. 2 player out of High School a few years back? You may she didn't do a whole lot her Frosh year...just started a fist fight at Mizzou..... But she of course bolted when Bonnie hit the town. God forbid you have to work and use your talents! I haven't looked to see how she is at UNLV this year but I prefer to FORGET her!

Lauren Ervin, Lady Rebels. Although you probably never heard of Ervin and she never officially made it to Las Vegas, the Lady Rebels were counting on Ervin, a transfer from Kansas, to take them to new heights, or they wouldn't have steered her up to Dixie Community College to improve her grades.

But as they say on Seinfeld, it didn't take. Ervin is no longer whistlin' Dixie or even going to class there, and thus will not become the savior of the injury-riddled women's basketball program.

Ervin, a 6-foot-4 forward, spent her freshman year at Kansas but before that she was a McDonald's All-American and was ranked the No. 2 prospect in the nation by several recruiting services.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/births/2005/jan/18/518142264.html

I couldn't tell you where she is at now, but this article is close to a year old. Anyway, she's not on UNLV's roster. If she didn't want to play basketball anymore, that's fine. Granted not everyone is cut out for college, but I hate to see someone not take advantage of getting an education if they have the opportunity.

[Waylontheman]

Ya my point is you don't have to be totally obsessed with bball or even want a career in it(you can make more than most players in WNBA with a degree anyway) but the fact is she was given an opportunity. And obviously she didn't want it. Sad to say many who do want it and deserve it never get the chance!

[bigred]

Coaches should do what Patterson did, instead of hammering them in practice with insults and embarassing them. Claire is a Junior, she was expected to step up and replace the stars of past. She was to be a leader for the newbys. Did P ever ask the past stars to "take a seat?"

Believe me, Claire is just sulking and needs a wake-up call. She just can't handle not having the world rotate around her. Some of these stars from HS and club fame, need a helping of "humble pie."

[finalanswer]

If you are expecting someone to be a leader, you would never want to belittle them or embarass them in front of the team (John Madden's words). It would seem to me by doing this she has no plans for leadership from Claire.

[bigred]

Was that Wooden or Madden, or both?

[Aspen1]

A friend of mine who knows Shana Wheeler, Carolyn McCullough and Claire Coggins ran into Coach P at a tournament this past summer. When she asked Patterson about how Shana and Carolyn were doing, Patterson had glowing things to say about how hard they worked in practice, good students and great young ladies. When asked about how Claire was doing, Patterson's reply was "Claire is Claire". My friend said "I could have told you that." Patterson's response: "I wish you had".

So I don't think Patterson has been exactly thrilled with Claire for quite some time.

[mred]

I couldn't tell you where she is at now, but this article is close to a year old. Anyway, she's not on UNLV's roster. If she didn't want to play basketball anymore, that's fine. Granted not everyone is cut out for college, but I hate to see someone not take advantage of getting an education if they have the opportunity.

According to this article (http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:oYfiNJDpi-0J:terrysheating.com/home/archives/index.asp%3FDateID%3D1/8/2005%26StoryID%3D8834%26theDB%3Dsports%26theIMG%3D SPORTS+%22Lauren+Ervin%22+%22dixie+state%22&hl=en&client=firefox-a) from January, she was academically ineligible for the spring semester at Dixie State. She apparently wasn't able to get her grades back up.