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ChipperF1
02-26-2002, 07:41 PM
Here is your official ballot for the The "Scoopies"
2002 HoopScoop.net Big 12 Womens Basketball Awards

SERIOUS AWARDS
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1. HoopScoop All Big-12 team (vote for 5)
2. Lynette Woodard Trophy (Big 12 Player of the Year)
3. HoopScoop Big 12 Country Fresh team (vote for 5 freshman)
4. Shelly Sheetz Trophy (Big 12 Freshman of the Year)
5. HoopScoop Big 12 All-Defense team (vote for 5)
6. Clarissa Davis Trophy (Big 12 All-Defense Team)
7. HoopScoop Golden Whistle (Coach Of The Year)
8. HoopScoop Golden Clipboard (Assistant Coach Of The Year)
9. HoopScoop Golden Spear (Point Guard Award)
10. HoopScoop Golden Ball (Best Off Guard-Small Forward)
11. HoopScoop Golden Shield (Best Interior Player)

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FUN AWARDS

12. Game of the Year
13. Best Dressed Coach
14. Most Quotable -- Player
15. Most Quotable -- Coach
16. Most Underrated Player
17. Most Overrated Player
18. Most Improved Player
19. Player I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
20. Coach I'd Wanna Have Dinner With


POSTER AWARDS
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21. Post Of The Season
22. HoopScoop All-Post team (choose 5)
23. HoopScoop Most Valuble Poster
24. HoopScoop All-Opinionated (choose 5)
25. Mechelle Voepel Trophy (Most Opinionated)
26. HoopScoop All-Homer (choose 5)
27. Dorothy "There's No Place Live Home" Trophy (biggest homer)

Happy Voting,
--ChipperF1 http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif

RaiderPower1
02-26-2002, 09:58 PM
Guess I'll go first since I got some extra time:

SERIOUS AWARDS
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1. HoopScoop All Big-12 team (vote for 5)
Angie Welle
Stacy Dales
Sheila Lambert
Danielle Crockrom
Jia Perkins

2. Lynette Woodard Trophy (Big 12 Player of the Year)
Angie Welle

3. HoopScoop Big 12 Country Fresh team (vote for 5 freshman)
Kendra Wecker
Laurie Koehn
Cisti Greenwalt
Heather Schreiber
Dionnah Jackson

4. Shelly Sheetz Trophy (Big 12 Freshman of the Year)
Kendra Wecker

5. HoopScoop Big 12 All-Defense team (vote for 5)
LaNeishea Caufield
Jia Perkins
Stacy Dales
Tie-Nicole Ohlde & Cisti Greenwalt (for blocks)
Sheila Lambert

6. Clarissa Davis Trophy (Big 12 All-Defense Team)
Sheila Lambert

7. HoopScoop Golden Whistle (Coach Of The Year)
Deb Patterson

8. HoopScoop Golden Clipboard (Assistant Coach Of The Year)
Linden Weese http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

9. HoopScoop Golden Spear (Point Guard Award)
Lindsey Wilson

10. HoopScoop Golden Ball (Best Off Guard-Small Forward)
Jia Perkins

11. HoopScoop Golden Shield (Best Interior Player)
Tie-Angie Welle & Stacy Stephens

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FUN AWARDS

12. Game of the Year
OU vs. UCONN for the NC http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif

13. Best Dressed Coach
Sherri Coale

14. Most Quotable – Player
tough one cause I don’t remember quotes very well but Stacy Dales

15. Most Quotable – Coach
Sherri Coale

16. Most Underrated Player
Karensa Barr

17. Most Overrated Player
eeeh! I don’t want to offend anyone! Keasha Cannon or Toccara Williams

18. Most Improved Player
Trisha Skibbe

19. Player I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
no contest!! Amber Tarr

20. Coach I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Sherri Coale


POSTER AWARDS
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21. Post Of The Season
Probably one from Chipper http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif

22. HoopScoop All-Post team (choose 5)
swok34
Jennifer
ChipperF1
DblT81
mred

23. HoopScoop Most Valuble Poster
schooner

24. HoopScoop All-Opinionated (choose 5)
ChipperF1
SwoopesMVP http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif
Airlonghorn
Bobcat4956
Big12Bear

25. Mechelle Voepel Trophy (Most Opinionated)
I just don’t know!

26. HoopScoop All-Homer (choose 5)
Bevo
RaiderPower1
KSUron
Kate dawg
Zo3157

27. Dorothy "There's No Place Live Home" Trophy (biggest homer)
The final award goes to……KSUron!

*Do I need a disclaimer saying that I hope I didn’t offend anyone?

grojc
02-26-2002, 10:30 PM
I'll give it shot

Here is your official ballot for the The "Scoopies"
2002 HoopScoop.net Big 12 Womens Basketball Awards
SERIOUS AWARDS
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1. HoopScoop All Big-12 team (vote for 5)

Wilson, Oldhe, Lambert, Stevens, Dales
2. Lynette Woodard Trophy (Big 12 Player of the Year)Lambert
3. HoopScoop Big 12 Country Fresh team (vote for 5 freshman)

Schreiber, Bowers, Wecker, Koehn, Moore
4. Shelly Sheetz Trophy (Big 12 Freshman of the Year)Wecker
5. HoopScoop Big 12 All-Defense team (vote for 5)Hastings, Perkins, Stevens, Lambert, Dales
6. Clarissa Davis Trophy (Big 12 All-Defense Team)
Lambert
7. HoopScoop Golden Whistle (Coach Of The Year)Patterson
8. HoopScoop Golden Clipboard (Assistant Coach Of The Year)Ethridge
9. HoopScoop Golden Spear (Point Guard Award)Wilson
10. HoopScoop Golden Ball (Best Off Guard-Small Forward)Perkins
11. HoopScoop Golden Shield (Best Interior Player)Stevens

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FUN AWARDS

12. Game of the Year TX-KSU
13. Best Dressed Coach Haldeman http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
14. Most Quotable -- Player Dales
15. Most Quotable -- Coach Mulkey Robertson
16. Most Underrated Player Hastings
17. Most Overrated Player Greenwaldt
18. Most Improved Player Wilson
19. Player I'd Wanna Have Dinner With Hastings
20. Coach I'd Wanna Have Dinner With Coale


POSTER AWARDS
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21. Post Of The Season SwoopesMVP
22. HoopScoop All-Post team (choose 5)Bigutfan, Raiderpower, Schooner, Hoopscoop, Bear... can't think of the full name
23. HoopScoop Most Valuble Poster Carolanne
24. HoopScoop All-Opinionated (choose 5)RaiderPower, Bevo, Bigutfan, the two guys from Baylor
25. Mechelle Voepel Trophy (Most Opinionated)RaiderPower
26. HoopScoop All-Homer (choose 5)Don't have an opinion
27. Dorothy "There's No Place Live Home" Trophy (biggest homer)
Raiderpower
Happy Voting,

RaiderPower1
02-26-2002, 10:46 PM
wow...am I supposed to feel honored? http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

grojc
02-26-2002, 10:52 PM
you've made it fun!! No one but UT or TTU fans can understand our rivalry!! And we've both really rowled up people so I quess you are kind of my -- role model??? http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/tongue.gif

Bob_Ballew
02-26-2002, 11:47 PM
ChipperF1, here is my picks. Just my opinion.

1. HoopScoop All Big-12 Team
Sheila Lambert
Danielle Crockrom
Stacy Dales
Angie Welle
Nicole Ohlde

2. Lynette Woodard Trophy
Sheila Lambert

3. HoopScoop Big-12 Freshmen
Kendra Wecker
Cisti Greenwalt
Steffanie Blackmon
Laurie Koehn
Heather Schreiber

4. Shelly Sheetz Trophy (FOY)
Kendra Wecker

5. HoopScoop Big-12 All-Defense Team
LaNeishea Caufield
Toccara Williams
Nicole Ohlde
Stacy Dales
Sheila Lambert

6. Clarissa Davis Trophy (Team Defense)
Baylor

7. HoopScoop Golden Whistle
Deb Patterson

8. HoopScoop Golden Clipboard
Bill Brock

9. HoopScoop Golden Spear
Sheila "Spear" Lambert

10. HoopScoop Golden Ball (Forward)
Danielle Crockrom

11. HoopScoop Golden Shield
Angie Welle

12. Game of the Year
OU/Baylor 1st game

13. Best Dressed Coach
Kim Mulkey-Robertson

14. Most Quotable Player
Jessika Stratton

15. Most Quotable Coach
Marsha Sharp

16. Most Underrated Player
Caton Hill

17. Most Overrated Player
#68 Kala Bowers, 6.7 Hoopla

18. Most Improved Player(s)
Stacy Stephens and Trisha Skibbe

19. Player I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Brooke McCormack

20. Coach I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Jody Conradt

21. Post of the Season
ChipperF1 .....Callista Flockhart

22. HoopScoop All-Post Team
swok34
Schooner
mred
DblT81
ChipperF1

23. HoopScoop Most Valuable Poster
swok34

24. HoopScoop All-Opinionated
Grojc
BigUTFan
Airlonghorn
Bobcat4956
Big12Bear

25. Mechelle Voepel Trophy
ChipperF1

26. HoopScoop All-Homer
KSUron
swok34
zo31
RaiderPower1
Bevo

27. Dorothy "There's No Place Like Home" Trophy
KSUron

Jennifer
02-27-2002, 12:12 AM
SERIOUS AWARDS
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1. HoopScoop All Big-12 team (vote for 5)
I'll try:

Stacy Dales
Nicole Ohlde
Angie Welle
Sheila Lambert
Tracy Gahan

2. Lynette Woodard Trophy (Big 12 Player of the Year)
Tough call...If I'm a homer I pick Dales
but, arguments can be made for Lambert and Welle.

3. HoopScoop Big 12 Country Fresh team (vote for 5 freshman)
Kendra Wecker, Laurie Koehn, Heather Schreiber, Dionnah Jackson, Megan Mahoney

4. Shelly Sheetz Trophy (Big 12 Freshman of the Year)
Kendra Wecker

5. HoopScoop Big 12 All-Defense team (vote for 5)
LaNeishea Caufield, Nicole Ohlde (lots of steals for a big girl and blocks), Toccarra Williams, Jia Perkins, Sheila Lambert

6. Clarissa Davis Trophy (Big 12 All-Defense Team)
Caufield

7. HoopScoop Golden Whistle (Coach Of The Year)
Deb Patterson

8. HoopScoop Golden Clipboard (Assistant Coach Of The Year)
not sure...

9. HoopScoop Golden Spear (Point Guard Award)
Mandy Nightingale or Sheila Lambert, totally different styles but both good in their own right

10. HoopScoop Golden Ball (Best Off Guard-Small Forward)
Stacy Dales--putting her here since she played less PG this year and can play any position. Would also consider Tracy Gahan

11. HoopScoop Golden Shield (Best Interior Player)
Nicole Ohlde


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FUN AWARDS

12. Game of the Year
My memory is to short for this!

13. Best Dressed Coach
Sherri Coale

14. Most Quotable -- Player
Stacy Dales

15. Most Quotable -- Coach
Not sure

16. Most Underrated Player
Tracy Gahan or Mandy Nightingale

17. Most Overrated Player
Hmmmm Kenya Larkin

18. Most Improved Player
Trisha Skibbe

19. Player I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Not sure

20. Coach I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
not sure


POSTER AWARDS
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21. Post Of The Season
Anyone of Chipper's for their entertainment value

22. HoopScoop All-Post team (choose 5)
chipper, swok, need to think on this

23. HoopScoop Most Valuble Poster
Hoopscoop himself--since he's the one who keeps all this going!

24. HoopScoop All-Opinionated (choose 5)
almost anyone for Texas http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif, Chipper1

25. Mechelle Voepel Trophy (Most Opinionated)


26. HoopScoop All-Homer (choose 5)
bevo, raiderpower1, bball girl, YCN, KSUron

27. Dorothy "There's No Place Live Home" Trophy (biggest homer)
5 way tie of the above



[This message has been edited by Jennifer (edited 02-26-2002).]

DblT81
02-27-2002, 12:49 AM
SERIOUS AWARDS
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1. HoopScoop All Big-12 team (vote for 5) Welle, Stephens, Dales, Lambert, Nightingale
2. Lynette Woodard Trophy (Big 12 Player of the Year) Lambert
3. HoopScoop Big 12 Country Fresh team (vote for 5 freshman) Koehn, Wecker, D Jackson, Schreiber, Greenwalt
4. Shelly Sheetz Trophy (Big 12 Freshman of the Year) Wecker
5. HoopScoop Big 12 All-Defense team (vote for 5) Ohlde, Caufield, Perkins, Lambert, Toc Williams
6. Clarissa Davis Trophy (Big 12 All-Defense Team) Oklahoma
7. HoopScoop Golden Whistle (Coach Of The Year) Patterson
8. HoopScoop Golden Clipboard (Assistant Coach Of The Year) Etheridge
9. HoopScoop Golden Spear (Point Guard Award) Nightingale
10. HoopScoop Golden Ball (Best Off Guard-Small Forward) Gahan
11. HoopScoop Golden Shield (Best Interior Player) Welle

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FUN AWARDS

12. Game of the Year- All the O.T. games—KSU/UT, TT/UT, CU/TT, OU/UT
13. Best Dressed Coach- who cares?
14. Most Quotable Player- definitely Dales
15. Most Quotable Coach- Coale
16. Most Underrated Player- Tarr
17. Most Overrated Player- Don’t want to get anybody motivated in the wrong way…. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif
18. Most Improved Player- tie Jolee Ayers & Trisha Skibbe
19. Player I'd Wanna Have Dinner With- Plenette Pierson
20. Coach I'd Wanna Have Dinner With- Marsha Sharp


POSTER AWARDS
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21. Post Of The Season Chipper on the Boneyard re: Miss Strother
22. HoopScoop All-Post team (choose 5) Chipper, JK, two cents, mred, Press
23. HoopScoop Most Valuable Poster Schooner, of course http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
24. HoopScoop All-Opinionated (choose 5) ChipperF1, BigUtFan, Bobcat4956, Big12Bear, SwoopesMVP
25. Mechelle Voepel Trophy (Most Opinionated) too many
26. HoopScoop All-Homer (choose 5) KSUron, swok34, zo31, RaiderPower1, Bevo
27. Dorothy "There's No Place Like Home" Trophy (biggest homer) elfdenmom http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif (just kidding edm, I had to get you in here for some kind of award.... http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif )



[This message has been edited by DblT81 (edited 02-26-2002).]

Redbear
02-27-2002, 11:26 AM
1. All Big 12

Angie Welle ISU
Nichole Ohlde KSU
Shelia Lambert BU
Danielle Crockrum BU
Laneisha Caufield OU

2. MVP Welle

3. Freshmen

Cristi Greenwalt TT
Laurie Koehn KSU
Kendra Wrecker KSU
Heather Schreiber UT
Megan Mahoney KSU

4. FOY - Greenwalt

5. All-Defense

Angie Welle ISU
Tari Cummings OSU
Sheila Lambert BU
Nicole Ohlde KSU
Laneisha Caufield OU

6. DOY - Ohlde

7. Coach of the Year Jody Conradt UT

8. Bill Brock BU

9. Point Guard Mandy Nightingale CU

10. Off Guard Lambert

11. Interior Welle

12. Nebraska upset of KSU

13. Best dressed Kim Mulkey-Robertson

14. Quotable Player - Caufield

15. Quotable coach - Marsha Sharp

16. Underrated - Keasha Cannon -Nebraska

17. Overrated- None.

18. Improved - Kerensa Barr - Missouri

19. Stacy Dales - OU

20. Marsha Sharp

17. Williams A&M

18. Barr MU

19. Stacy Dales OU

20. Marsha Sharp

kate dawg
02-27-2002, 11:50 AM
SERIOUS AWARDS
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1. HoopScoop All Big-12 team
Angie Welle, ISU
Danielle Crockrom, BU
LaNeishea Caufield, OU
Stacey Stephens, UT
Nicole Ohlde, KSU

2. Lynette Woodard Trophy (Big 12 Player of the Year)
Angie Welle, ISU

3. HoopScoop Big 12 Country Fresh team (vote for 5 freshman)
Kendra Wecker, KSU
Laurie Koehn, KSU
Heather Schreiber, UT
Kala Bowers, UT
Dionnah Jackson, OU

4. Shelley Sheetz Trophy (Big 12 Freshman of the Year)
Kendra Wecker, KSU

5. HoopScoop Big 12 All-Defense team (vote for 5)
Mandy Nightingale, CU
LaNeishea Caufield, OU
Toccara Williams, TAMU
Caton Hill, OU
Jia Perkins, TT

6. Clarissa Davis Trophy (Big 12 All-Defense Team)
LaNeishea "The Glove" Caufield, OU

7. HoopScoop Golden Whistle (Coach Of The Year)
Jody Conradt, UT

8. HoopScoop Golden Clipboard (Assistant Coach Of The Year)
Kamie Ethridge, KSU

9. HoopScoop Golden Spear (Point Guard Award)
Mandy Nightingale, CU

10. HoopScoop Golden Ball (Best Off Guard-Small Forward)
Tracy Gahan, ISU

11. HoopScoop Golden Shield (Best Interior Player)
Angie Welle, ISU
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FUN AWARDS
12. Game of the Year
Still to come.

13. Best Dressed Coach
Sherri Coale, OU

14. Most Quotable -- Player
Angie Welle, ISU

15. Most Quotable -- Coach
Sherri Coale, OU

16. Most Underrated Player
Kerensa Barr, MU

17. Most Overrated Player
Stacey Dales, OU

18. Most Improved Player
Tera Bjorklund, CU

19. Player I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Caton Hill, OU

20. Coach I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Sherri Coale, OU

POSTER AWARDS
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21. Post Of The Season-Anything by Chipper
22. HoopScoop All-Post team (choose 5)
Chipper, KSUron, Carolann, DBLT81, Swok34

23. HoopScoop Most Valuble Poster
Chipper

24. HoopScoop All-Opinionated (choose 5)
I don't know. everyone is.

25. Mechelle Voepel Trophy (Most Opinionated)
I don't know. everyone is.

26. HoopScoop All-Homer (choose 5)
See above.

27. Dorothy "There's No Place Live Home" Trophy (biggest homer)
Me.

soonerborn
02-27-2002, 12:45 PM
1. HoopScoop All Big-12 team
Stacy Dales
Angie Welle
Kendra Wecker
Laneishea Caufield
Danielle Crockrom

2. Lynette Woodard Trophy (Big 12 Player of the Year)
Stacy Dales (lots of great choices - but, IMO Stacy has been the most important to the team)

3. HoopScoop Big 12 Country Fresh team (vote for 5 freshman)
Wecker KSU
Schreiber UT
Jackson OU
Koehn KSU
Greenwalt TT

4. Shelly Sheetz Trophy (Big 12 Freshman of the Year)
Kendra Wecker KSU

5. HoopScoop Big 12 All-Defense team (vote for 5)
Caufield OU
Dales OU
Rosalind Ross OU
Jia Perkins TT
Sheila Lambert BU


6. Clarissa Davis Trophy (Big 12 All-Defense Team)
Caufield OU

7. HoopScoop Golden Whistle (Coach Of The Year)
Deb Patterson KSU

8. HoopScoop Golden Clipboard (Assistant Coach Of The Year)
Bo Overton OU

9. HoopScoop Golden Spear (Point Guard Award)
Lindsey Wilson ISU

10. HoopScoop Golden Ball (Best Off Guard-Small Forward)
Dales OU

11. HoopScoop Golden Shield (Best Interior Player)
Stacy Stephens UT


FUN AWARDS

12. Game of the Year
OSU/BU - two shots with a prayer

13. Best Dressed Coach
Sherri Coale

14. Most Quotable -- Player
Stacy Dales

15. Most Quotable -- Coach
Kim Mulkey-Robertson - "nobody likes me"

16. Most Underrated Player
Caton Hill

17. Most Overrated Player
Katie Robinette

18. Most Improved Player
Jamie Talbert

19. Player I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Rosalind Ross

20. Coach I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Jody Conradt - saw her munching on a turkey leg, cotton candy and popcorn at the OU/TX football game - some of my favorite foods!

POSTER AWARDS
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21. Post Of The Season
Chipper's take on lots of things

22. HoopScoop All-Post team (choose 5)
swok34
ChipperF1
mred
schooner
Jennifer

23. HoopScoop Most Valuble Poster
mred - for working out the possible seeding spreadsheet

24. HoopScoop All-Opinionated (choose 5)
airlonghorn
Bevo
Chipper
Big12Bear
SwoopesMVP

25. Mechelle Voepel Trophy (Most Opinionated)
Airlonghorn

26. HoopScoop All-Homer (choose 5)
swok34
airlonghorn
KSUron
Raiderpower1
BobCat4956

27. Dorothy "There's No Place Live Home" Trophy (biggest homer)
KSUron

schooner2
02-27-2002, 02:00 PM
Chipper - you gonna tally all these and give us the consensus picks?

And what about Most Schizophrenic Player?
I would pick a tie between Rosalind Ross and Kala Bowers

SERIOUS AWARDS
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1. HoopScoop All Big-12 team (vote for 5)
Stacey Dales
Angie Welle
Nicole Ohlde
Sheila Lambert
Tracy Gahan
2. Lynette Woodard Trophy (Big 12 Player of the Year)
Stacey Dales - she's pouring it on at the end

3. HoopScoop Big 12 Country Fresh team (vote for 5 freshman)
Kendra Wecker
Laurie Koehn
Cisti Greenwalt
Heather Schreiber
Kala Bowers

4. Shelly Sheetz Trophy (Big 12 Freshman of the Year)
Kendra Wecker

5. HoopScoop Big 12 All-Defense team (vote for 5)
Toccara Williams (104 steals, 11 blocks)
Sheila Lambert (82 steals, 11 blocks)
Nicole Ohlde (62 steals, 43 blocks) 43 blocks! are you kidding me?
Jia Perkins (71 steals, 18 blocks)
LaNeishea Caufield (73 steals)

6. Clarissa Davis Trophy (Big 12 All-Defense Team)
Nicole Ohlde

7. HoopScoop Golden Whistle (Coach Of The Year)
Deb Patterson - no contest

8. HoopScoop Golden Clipboard (Assistant Coach Of The Year)
Bo Overton - the man knows how to get technicals!

9. HoopScoop Golden Spear (Point Guard Award)
Sheila Lambert - maybe not as good assist/turnover ratio as Mandy - but Sheila can create or pullup and shoot like none other.

10. HoopScoop Golden Ball (Best Off Guard-Small Forward)
LaNeishea Caufield (73 steals, 5.0 rebound avg, 17.7 ppg)

11. HoopScoop Golden Shield (Best Interior Player)
Nicole Ohlde


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FUN AWARDS

12. Game of the Year
Well, you didn't restrict this to a Big 12 conference game. So I'll game with Texas - Tennessee - this one may have been the beginning of really putting the Big 12 on the map.

13. Best Dressed Coach
Coale

14. Most Quotable -- Player
Dales

15. Most Quotable -- Coach
Coale

16. Most Underrated Player
Tracy Gahan

17. Most Overrated Player
I'm going to respectfully decline on this one. I don't think any player is getting more pub than she deserves.

18. Most Improved Player
Lindsey Wilson - it's not like she was mediocre last season. But she has just elevated her game so much this season. She averages 8 more minutes and 5.2 more points per game. And she has doubled the number of steals she had last season.

19. Player I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Either Caton Hill for the zaniness
or
Amanda Cleveland or Natalie Ritchie - for the inspiration

20. Coach I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Either Ceal or Marsha


POSTER AWARDS
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21. Post Of The Season
pick any of two cents or dem's recent ones

22. HoopScoop All-Post team (choose 5)
two cents - very thought provoking
dem - ditto
DblT81 - same
Chipper - there is none other like him
swok34 - if there's Big 12 info out there, she'll get it

23. HoopScoop Most Valuble Poster
I'll go with two cents - after all winning Hoopla! (likely) should count too

24. HoopScoop All-Opinionated (choose 5)
RaiderPower1
AirLonghorn
Big12Bear
Bobcat4956
Chipper - didn't say they were bad opinions

25. Mechelle Voepel Trophy (Most Opinionated)
Take your pick from 24

26. HoopScoop All-Homer (choose 5)
I'll choose 3 based on Hoopla! picks
RaiderPower1
mred
KSUron


27. Dorothy "There's No Place Live Home" Trophy (biggest homer)
mred - may have picked more Cyclones than KSUron did Wildcats

Cycurl714
02-27-2002, 07:16 PM
SERIOUS AWARDS
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All-Big Twelve Team
Sheila Lambert
Tracy Gahan
Stacy Dales
Angie Welle
Keisha Cannon

Player of the Year
Angie Welle

All Freshman Team
Cisti Greenwalt
Kendra wecker
Laurie Koehn
Tracy Paustian
Heather Scheiber

Freshman of the Year
Kendra Wecker

All Defense Team
Sheila Lambert
LaNeisha Caufield
Tocarra Williams
Nicole Ohlde
Tracy Gahan

All Defense Team
Toccara Williams

Coach of the Year
Deb Patterson

Point Guard
Lindsey Wilson

Off Guard/Small Forward
Tracy Gahan

Post Player
Angie Welle

FUN AWARDS
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Game of the year
I can't choose

Best Dressed Coach
Sherri Coale

Most Quotable player
Stacy Dales

Most Quotable Coach
Marsha Sharpe

Most Underrated Player
Keisha Cannon

Most Overrated Player
Katie Robinette

Most Improved Player
Lindsey Wilson

Player I'd Wanna have Dinner With
Erica Junod

Coach I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Bill Fennelly

POSTER AWARDS
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Post of the Season
Anything by ChipperF1

All-Post Team
ChipperF1
Mred
Schooner
Swok34
JK

Most Valuable Poster
Schooner

All Opinionated Team
ChipperF1
Mred
RaiderPower1
big UtFan
SwoopesMVP

Most Opinionated
ChipperF1

All Homer
KSUron
Mred
Zo31
RaiderPower1
Myself(see above)

Biggest Homer
Myself(did you read my post?)



[This message has been edited by Cycurl714 (edited 02-27-2002).]

Bevo
02-28-2002, 03:21 AM
1. HoopScoop All Big-12 team (vote for 5)
G Lambert - Her moves make even the best defenders look silly. Great defense, superior passer, unselfish...
G Dales - When she plays, you can see the wheels turning. And most likely, you're going to get run over by that Sooner Schooner she's driving.
F Gahan - A silent assassin. Best all-around "swing" player in the league.
F Stephens - Fantastic year for the soph. Her strength is her biggest asset.
C Ohlde - The centerpiece of the turnaround in Manhattan.

2. Lynette Woodard Trophy (Big 12 Player of the Year)
Lambert.

3. HoopScoop Big 12 Country Fresh team (vote for 5 freshman)
G Jackson
G Koehn
F Schreiber
F Wecker
C Blackmon

4. Shelly Sheetz Trophy (Big 12 Freshman of the Year)
Gotta go with Schreiber. Solid, solid year.

5. HoopScoop Big 12 All-Defense team (vote for 5)
G Lambert
G Perkins
G/F Caufield
F Hastings (gets this primarily because of her effort against Dales in Austin)
C Ohlde

6. Clarissa Davis Trophy (Big 12 All-Defense Team)
Does this go the team (OU) or the player (Caufield)?

7. HoopScoop Golden Whistle (Coach Of The Year)
This may actually be harder than picking a player of the year. I'll go for Deb Patterson. I was so impressed watching her in Austin. So soft-spoken and respectful - she just seems like a really nice person. What a fantastic job she's done with that young talent.

8. HoopScoop Golden Clipboard (Assistant Coach Of The Year)
I don't know to much about the assistants around the league. I'll go with Kamie Ethridge since she's one of the all-time great Lady Longhorns.

9. HoopScoop Golden Spear (Point Guard Award)
Lambert. In addition to the gaudy scoring numbers, the Baylor offense really clicks with her leading the charge.

10. HoopScoop Golden Ball (Best Off Guard-Small Forward)
Gahan.

11. HoopScoop Golden Shield (Best Interior Player)
Got to go with Stephens. When she wants the rebound or loose ball inside, nobody's going to take it from her.

12. Game of the Year
Actually, I enjoyed the Texas win over ISU the most as far as pure excitement down to the buzzer. My heart was in my throat when ISU shot the potential game winner.

13. Best Dressed Coach
??? I'll say Ceal Barry.

14. Most Quotable -- Player
Dales.

15. Most Quotable -- Coach
KMR is not shy in offering an opinion.

16. Most Underrated Player
Eisha Bohman, CU.

17. Most Overrated Player
Anybody on my Hoopla! team for that particular session.

18. Most Improved Player
Trisha Skibbe, OSU.

19. Player I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Laurie Koehn. I read one of those "20 questions" things on her recently. She seemed like such a humble, sincere and likable Christian young lady.

20. Coach I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Conradt. I'd love to hear some candid stories from her 1,000+ games. The highs, the lows, the players, the fellow coaches...

21. Post Of The Season
"You don't get points for beating Callista Flockhart in an eating contest." ChipperF1. That still cracks me up.

22. HoopScoop All-Post team (choose 5)
Point Guard - Hoopscoop makes it all work: The message board, Hoopla!, the front page. And not afraid to be the enforcer as well.
Shooting Guard - KSUron. Much like the team he favors, this "rookie" has come in shooting lights out and added a great deal of excitement to the season.
Small Forward - carolann. The steady, calming influence for all Longhorn fans.
Power Forward - DblT81. Nobody supports their team in such a positive manner through thick and thin. Always offering up stats to back up the opinions.
Center (of attention) - ChipperF1. Our "highlight reel" poster.

Honorable mention - swok34

23. HoopScoop Most Valuble Poster
Although Hoopscoop probably deserves the award, in true WBB political fashion the award goes to ChipperF1 because he's always in the spotlight!

24. HoopScoop All-Opinionated (choose 5)
ChipperF1
Big12Bear
JK
kate dawg
SwoopsMVP

25. Mechelle Voepel Trophy (Most Opinionated)
Hands down - Big12Bear. "Mark my words, it WILL be a blowout. It WILL be an embarrassment on national TV and there WILL be a loud, rowdy crowd on hand to savor it. When Mulkey plays UT it is custom that this happens." Now that is throwing out an opinion!

26. HoopScoop All-Homer (choose 5)
All of us.

27. Dorothy "There's No Place Live Home" Trophy (biggest homer)

Hands down - RaiderPower1.

Whew!

ChipperF1
02-28-2002, 12:14 PM
SERIOUS AWARDS
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1. HoopScoop All Big-12 team (vote for 5)
This was a lot of tough calls, but here is who stood out


LaNeisha Caulfield, Oklahoma..I feel Caulfield is a tad underrated.
Nicole Ohlde, Kansas State....She'll be the next Welle, count on it.
Angie Welle, Iowa State.......Just plain good at both ends of the floor
Danielle Crockrum, Baylor.....Another WNBA star in the making.
Sheila Lambert, Baylor........Sheryl II. A ballplayer, period.

2. Lynette Woodard Trophy (Big 12 Player of the Year)
Sheila Lambert, Baylor

3. HoopScoop Big 12 Country Fresh team (vote for 5 freshman)
Kendra Wecker, Kansas State....The best freshman in America, bar none.
Laurie Koehn, Kansas State.....Solid on the perimeter, good shooter, and she'll just starting to realize how good she can be.
Dionnah Jackson, Oklahoma....Back in the day we used to say somebody like her was "bad action" and she is. She's a lot of fun to watch.
Heather Schreiber, Texas.......She's one tough Texas bull. Kind of reminds me of Clarissa Davis.
Steffanie Blackmon, Baylor.....It was tight between Cisti Greenwalt and Blackmon, but in looking at both of them play, I saw more Blackmon's game than Greenwalts. But these two will have some great duels in the next three years.

4. Shelly Sheetz Trophy (Big 12 Freshman of the Year)
Kendra Wecker...Once again, for all the East Coast peoples:
Kendra Wecker is the best freshman in America!!!!

5. HoopScoop Big 12 All-Defense team (vote for 5)
Jia Perkins, Texas Tech...She'll steal your socks without removing you shoes.
Nicole Ohlde, Kansas State...Has some of the most active hands of any post player I've seen. 43 blocks AND 62 steals.
Tocarra Williams, Texas A&M...A master thief, 104 steals
LaNeisha Caulfield, Oklahoma...Her defensive ability gets buried because she such a player offensively.
Sheila Lambert, Steals galore, many of them leading to more points for the K-Cars.

6. Clarissa Davis Trophy (Big 12 All-Defense Team)
Nicole Ohlde, Kansas State. Holy Dikembe, Batman! She blocks, she steals and cleans the defensive glass.

7. HoopScoop Golden Whistle (Coach Of The Year)
Deb Patterson, Kansas State. What a turnaround!!!!

8. HoopScoop Golden Clipboard (Assistant Coach Of The Year)
Kamie Etheridge, Kansas State. Her offense + talent=the Manhattan Project '02. You'll see the phrase "Head Coach Kamie Etheridge" in the years to come.

9. HoopScoop Golden Spear (Point Guard Award)
Sheila Lambert, Baylor.....It was a tough choice between her and Mandy Nightingale, but I give the nod to Lambert because I've always liked point guards who also can score points and shoot well. Also honourable mention love to Lindsey Wilson, too.

10. HoopScoop Golden Ball (Best Off Guard-Small Forward)
LaNeisha Caulfield, Oklahoma. She's more than worth the price of admission.

11. HoopScoop Golden Shield (Best Interior Player)
Angie Welle, Iowa State....It was close between her Ohlde and Stacy Stephens. I'll miss #32 very much, and I hope she does well in the WNBA
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FUN AWARDS

12. Game of the Year......Texas beating Tennessee
Although there have been some doozies including that Baylor-Iowa State war last night.

13. Best Dressed Coach
Sherri Coale, Oklahoma.....
(with apologies to the Isley Brothers)
Who's that lady? (Who's that lady!)
Beautiful lady! (who's that lady?)
Fashion plate lady (who's that lady?)
Big 12 Championship lady (who's that lady?)
She's the coach we all adore,
headed to the Final Four.
And when her team hits the floor, all the guys just look her waaaaaaay!!!

14. Most Quotable -- Player
Caton Hill, Oklahoma...That girl will leave you in stitches!

15. Most Quotable -- Coach
Kim Mulkey-Robinson, Baylor...Oh, and she can dance, too.

16. Most Underrated Player
Trisha Skibbe, Oklahoma State...If she was in Norman, we'd really know her name.
Chipper's All-Underrated Team
Trisha Skibbe, Oklahoma State
Evan Unrau, Missouri....She has potential at the next level
Keasha Cannon, Nebraska...A serious ballplayer on a St. Jude team.
Tocarra Williams, Texas A&M...Good steals and good assists, she's a shot away from really being a next level player
Selena Scott, Kansas...Another good ballplayer stuck on a hopeless team.

17. Most Overrated Player.
Plenette Pierson, Texas Tech

18. Most Improved Player
Jia Perkins, Texas....She had to grow more this year and she really did in her play. The sky's the limit with this girl.

19. Player I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Shalondra Booker, Kansas State....One of my favorite players in this league. Always gives it 100% of herself every minute she's on the floor.

20. Coach I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Bill Fennelly, Iowa State....I'd like to get the scoop on how he takes kids that may not be the best athletes or the best basketball players, but they win a ton of games with smarts and heart.

POSTER AWARDS
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21. Post Of The Season
YCN's analysis of Cisti Greenwalt's freshman season (02-07-2002)
This was well done and very informative. This is one thing I love about HoopScoop, we have some fans in the know!

22. HoopScoop All-Post team (choose 5)
elfdenmom......She's love her Raiders and it shows
Press......Always good info.
swok34.....Entertaining and loves them Sooners
Jennifer...Another one with good info, healthy love of the fav ballclub.
DblT81.....Always a pleasure to read under this byline...especially some of good story links you post

23. HoopScoop Most Valuble Poster
swok34......It's a tough choice, because I never met a hoopscoop poster I didn't like, even some of the anti-Nebraska Iowa State people http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif

24. HoopScoop All-Opinionated (choose 5)
AirLonghorn
RaiderPower1
(These two in a bar would be entertaining, very entertaining!)
mred
SwoopesMVP (gone but not forgotten)
Press

25. Mechelle Voepel Trophy (Most Opinionated)
(tie) AirLonghorn and RaiderPower1

26. HoopScoop All-Homer (choose 5)
KSUron
AirLonghorn
RaiderPower1
Kate Dawg
Big12Bear

27. Dorothy "There's No Place Live Home" Trophy (biggest homer)
It's close because you all love your ballclubs, but the rookie is the man here
KSUron....You oughta change your name to Jimi, because you are in a Purple Haze http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif

28. HoopScoop Lifetime Achievement Award
The the man himself...HoopScoop YOU DA MAN!
We have best forum for womens hoop on the net in my opinion.

We run smack, but we maintain civility. We respect the game. Respect each other and each other's teams and we exchange information.
You can be opinionated and forthright without some of the personal attacks and arrogance I find in other forums. It is a refreshing change from the "we rule, you suck" sports-talk radio environment that sports opinion has become today.

The Big XII has the best conference in the country and the best fan forum in the country.



[This message has been edited by ChipperF1 (edited 02-28-2002).]

AirLonghorn
02-28-2002, 12:42 PM
1.) All Big XII Team:
Stacy Dales
Lambert
Crockrom
Stacy Stephens
Angie Welle

2.) Player of Year
Lambert

3.) Fresh Team:
Wecker
Koehn
Schreiber
Bowers
Jackson

4.) Fresh of Year:
Heather Schreiber

5.) All Defense:
Caufield
Olde
Dales
Toccara Williams
Lambert

6.) Defense Player
Lambert

7.) Coach of Year
Deb Patterson

8.)Asst. Coach of Year
Ethridge

9.) Point Guard
Lambert

10.) Off-Guard/Forward
Cockrom

11.) Interior Player
Stacy Stepthens

12.) Game of Year
KSU vs. Texas (double o.t.)
Baylor vs. Iowa State

13.) Best Dressed Coach
Jody C.

14.) Quotable Player
A.Welle

15.) Quotable Coach
Finley

16.) Undrrated Player
Amber Tarr

17.) Overrated Player
Jia Perkins

18.) Imporved Player
Stacy Stephens

19.) Player to have dinner with
Stacy Dales

20.) Coach for dinner
Jody, Jody, Jody
____________________________________________

21.) Post of Season
swok34

22.) All Post Team
swok34
horntooter
Texas
Chipper
two cents

23.) VAluable Poster
swok34

24.) All Opinionated
grojo
kate dawg
Bobcat
Big 12 Bear
Raider Powder

25.) Most Opioniated
tie: bobcat/big12bear/raiderpowder

26.)All Homer
KSUron
zo3157
raiderpowder
Kate dawg
bobcat

27.) biggest homer
KSUron

BEVOFAN2
03-01-2002, 12:38 AM
I don't know much about the other "nominations" but I sure would like to have dinner with Bo Overton gaaazzing into his cute eyes http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif

KSUron
03-01-2002, 01:14 AM
Chipper joins oh so many of you and says I'm the biggest homer. I'm shocked, just shocked! http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif Chipper wants me to change my name to "Jimi" for Jimi Hendrix who had the great song Purple Haze. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif
Thats good, maybe I should do it. But maybe I could get around this homer thing by droping the KSU part and inserting Cpt. You don't think anyone would catch on do you? http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif

On to the awards

1. HoopScoop all Big XII
Lambert Just an amazing player.
Crockrom
Welle
Ohlde
Dales
Gahan

2. Lynette Woodard Trophy (POY)
Sheila Lambert

3. Freshman team
Wecker
Jackson
Koehn
Schreiber
Greenwalt

4. Shelly Sheetz Big XII Freshman of the year
I gotta agree with Chipper on this one. The best freshman in America and getting better, Kendra Wecker!

5. All-Defense Team
Nightingale - when playing KSU
Perkins
Ohlde
Caufield
Williams

6. Clarissa Davis Trophy for defense
Perkins

7. COY
Deb Patterson

8. Assistant COY
Kamie Etheridge

9. Golden Spear
Sheila Lambert

10. Golden Ball
Gahan

11. Golden Sheild
Angie Welle

12. Game of the year.
My UT v that other UT

13. Best Dressed Coach
Sherri Coale

14. Most quoteable player
Stacy Dales

15. Most quotable Coach
Sherri Coale

16. Most underated player
I agree with Bevo on this one. Eisha Bohman. Maybe that's because I'm caught in a puple haze and just haven't heard enough about this player, but she is always a killer to us. She just gets it done. I was tempted to mention Kristin Rethman but I think her secrets out a little bit. We are really going to miss her.

17. Most Overated player.
I dreaming about the day when we get enough press to have overated players.

18. Most improved player.
Trisha Skibbe, impressive!

19. Player I'd want to have dinner with
Kristin Rethman, so I could try to recruit her as a future employee. The way she handled not starting this year after starting for three years and the way she has provided leadership for our young players says volumes about her quality as a person. She is going to be a valuable member of somebody's team her whole life!

20. Coach I'd want to have dinner with.
Bill Fennelly. I'd love to get more insight into how he gets that kind of performance out of his players and how he keeps on an even keel. I'd also love to have dinner with Sherri Coale. An incredible dynamic coach and besides, I could brag about that meal after she wins the NC.

21. Post of the season
Chipper "Callista Flockhart"

22. HoopScoop all post team
HoopScoop
swok34
mred
Dblt81
Jennifer
And many others

23. Most valuable poster
swok34 for all the reasons you already know and because I found this board because of one of her posts on the ESPN board. You have rescued me from pergatory!

24. All Opinionated
ChipperF1
Raiderpower1
Big12Bear
YCN
mred

25. Lets see, I'm not sure he likes Michelle Voepel but
ChipperF1

26. All homer
Bevo
swok34
Kate Dawg
mred
Jennifer

27. Dorothy "There's No Place Like Home" Trophy
Well it can't be me. I'm just a lovable fuzzball, its Kate Dawg.

28. The STP Oil Treatment Lifetime Achievment Trophy (ya slipped an extra one in on us my man)
But I have to agree with you Chipper. "HoopScoop! YOU DA MAN!"

Thanks ChipperF1.

RaiderPower1
03-01-2002, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by KSUron:

26. All homer
Bevo
swok34
Kate Dawg
mred
Jennifer

27. Dorothy "There's No Place Like Home" Trophy
Well it can't be me. I'm just a lovable fuzzball, its Kate Dawg.


Not that I'm ashamed of it, but I really didn't consider myself as much of homer as MANY of the longhorn fans, but I hadn't thought about Kate Dawg. Definately the biggest homer among us! Agreed!

swok34
03-01-2002, 02:25 PM
ok, finally sat down and figured mine up.

1. HoopScoop All Big-12 team

Stacey Dales, OU; Shelia Lambert, BU; Danielle Crockrum, BU; Angie Welle, ISU; Nicole Ohlde, KSU

2. Lynette Woodard Trophy

Shelia Lambert, she is Baylor Basketball

3. HoopScoop Big 12 Country Fresh team

Kendra Wecker, KSU; Heather Schreiber, UT; Laurie Koehn, KSU, Dionnah Jackson, OU; Cisti Greenwalt, TTU

4. Shelly Sheetz Trophy

Kendra Wecker

5. HoopScoop Big 12 All-Defense team

Laneisha Caufield, OU; Tocarra Williams, TAMU; Sheila Lambert, BU; Jia Perkins, TTU; Nicole Ohlde, KSU

6. Clarissa Davis Trophy Oklahoma, ok...that's probably a homer pick, but their defense has improved tremendously this year.

7. HoopScoop Golden Whistle

Deb Patterson, Kansas State

8. HoopScoop Golden Clipboard
Kami Ethridge, Kansas State....isn't she the one who actually brought in all the great freshmen?

9. HoopScoop Golden Spear (Point Guard Award)
Shelia Lambert, BU

10. HoopScoop Golden Ball (Best Off Guard-Small Forward)
Laneisha Caufield, OU

11. HoopScoop Golden Shield (Best Interior Player)
Angie Welle, ISU

12. Game of the Year If I have to pick one, it would have to be the Baylor/Oklahoma State game in Stillwater.

13. Best Dressed Coach
Sherri Coale

14. Most Quotable -- Player
Stacey Dales

15. Most Quotable -- Coach
Sherri Coale; although I still remember the classic Conradt quote from last year on Asha Hill, "I guess if she can't eat, she can't play"....referring to Asha's jaw being wired shut.

16. Most Underrated Player
Caton Hill, OU

17. Most Overrated Player I, too, am staying away from this one.

18. Most Improved Player Think I'm going with Nicole Ohlde on this one.

19. Player I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Stacey Dales

20. Coach I'd Wanna Have Dinner With
Kim Mulkey-Robertson, are you kidding....the places she's been, the things she's seen....

21. Post Of The Season

Chippers rendition on the recruitment of "Ann Strothers"
had me rolling.

22. HoopScoop All-Post team (choose 5)
Zo3157
Jennifer
Dblt
Chipper
mred
I really value everyone's opinion on this board and try to read all the posts, this is the first year I can recall some of our posts getting so heated.

23. HoopScoop Most Valuble Poster

It absolutely wouldn't go without Schooner.

24. HoopScoop All-Opinionated (choose 5)
I think we've all had an opinion or two, depending on our view of which game we watched and how we interpreted it.

25. Mechelle Voepel Trophy (Most Opinionated)
SwoopesMVP

26. HoopScoop All-Homer (choose 5)
KateDawg, KSUron, SwoopesMVP, Big12Bear...aren't we all?

27. Dorothy "There's No Place Live Home" Trophy
Ksuron

and my own 2 added awards:

Best all-around player for their TEAM: Stacey Dales, OU. Stacey is Oklahoma and due to injury and depth problems has probably cost her herself the PG of the year award. Since she plays "all around", she really deserves this award.

Most improved poster: I am so impressed with AirLonghorn's turnaround, that was pretty phenomenal in a single week.....though I have yet to figure out which team he is actually a fan of http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif

KSUron
03-01-2002, 03:12 PM
swok34, I love a couple of your comments.

#15 Most Quotable Coach comment; Conradt "I guess if she can't eat, she can't play". Classic, I forgot that.

#18 Most Improved Player: Nicole Ohlde. That is a very insightful pick and much more worthy than most folks would know. I avoided making it myself because it is not at all obvious and is therefore somewhat hard to explain. On the surface her numbers are much the same as last year (except for blocks) but her whole game is so much more efective on both ends of the floor. She is still learning how to be effective as a post and even during the season you can see new moves being perfected. She also has improved on defense and is more relaxed and confident as a player. Its fun to watch her develop. If I would have picked her it would have been easily dismissed as a homer pick. I'm glad that you picked up on her efforts. Thanks.

BTW, I have decided that it may be appropriate for us to have that "Dorothy" No Place Like Home Trophy here in Kansas. And you all did put it down in black and white.

Jennifer
03-01-2002, 03:18 PM
Ya know, I initially had typed in Ohlde as most improved. I changed my mind because being FOY last season, of course she was expected to put up the numbers she did. And, I thought maybe the improvement I saw was more or at least partially attributable to having more of a supporting cast in the freshman class that came in.
I admit, my opinion has changed tremendously this season. The only time I recall seeing her play last season was a televised game in the Big 12 tourney and it was ho-hum, boring. Based on that, I couldn't see how she was FOY over Stephens or Perkins. Now I'll likely be touting her for POY next year!!

swok34
03-01-2002, 05:08 PM
I really did have to think on that question and I based it, not on numbers, but on their level of play through my eyes.

I recall last year that Ohlde had the numbers, she also seemed to experience the physical wiles of the Big 12 and reacted, IMO, the way most freshmen react. Similar to Cisti Greenwalt in the OU game. Her strength in a physical division is stronger and she made some absolutely incredible shots, in the games I saw. So, I think, as a post, she may be a close rival to Welle, even at this point. But Welle's experience buys her the interior player this year.