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TexasLR
03-02-2005, 04:29 PM
Not blaming any of you Baylor fans on here, but I was looking at a Baylor message board and one person said that they were going to bring a sign that said something incredibly vulgar about Alesha Robertson. Has womens college basketball turned from friendly rivalries into outright below the belt hits?
Just looken for some of yalls opionons.
swok34
03-02-2005, 04:33 PM
Not blaming any of you Baylor fans on here, but I was looking at a Baylor message board and one person said that they were going to bring a sign that said something incredibly vulgar about Alesha Robertson. Has womens college basketball turned from friendly rivalries into outright below the belt hits?
Just looken for some of yalls opionons.
Personally, I think anything said on a "school's board needs to stay there and away from Hoopscoop......
and also, not sure how the Baylor fans here could have control over the other 8000+ fans in the building.
TexasLR
03-02-2005, 04:39 PM
I don't belive I ever said anything about the Baylor fans on Hoopscoop controling the other 8,000 fans. I was simply bringing up the topic of how rivalries have changed over the years.
swok34
03-02-2005, 04:46 PM
I don't belive I ever said anything about the Baylor fans on Hoopscoop controling the other 8,000 fans. I was simply bringing up the topic of how rivalries have changed over the years.
I actually think you see some of what you are talking about at every game depending on the rivalry. And the majority of the time, it is an 18 year old college student.
And students will be students.........just as we were back when we were too young to know better ;)
NewBearFan2002
03-02-2005, 04:52 PM
called "The Death of Civility" what you are refering to is another symptom of societies general lack of boundaries and respect for others. It is pitiful.
Bob_Ballew
03-02-2005, 05:01 PM
The Baylor message board is pitiful, just like many others. Some of the posters don't think women should be allowed to vote. Their lame opinions are just that. I get mad when I read that crap, so I choose to stay away.
BearLady
03-02-2005, 05:07 PM
TexasLR,
I don't know about any Baylor fans and their plans, but if that's the case . . . that's truly very sad. I don't even visit the Baylor message boards, as I don't care to read what may be there (or on any other boards, for that matter).
Unfortunately I'm sure that we have our share of fans who can be, well, let's just say, they don't have the HoopScoop spirit. In years past I have heard some negative comments about Alesha and how her dad needed to have a 'talking' with her. But the way I look at it is that she (and anyone) should do/go where they want. I've always enjoyed watching Alesha play and cheer for her to do well anytime (except when she goes up against our Lady Bears, of course).
If I see signs such as that/hear negative comments tomorrow night, I'm sure I'll find myself admonishing the person. I've done so in the past when a Baylor 'fan' carried on a running ridicule complete with all negative comments he could think of about one of the top Big 12 coaches. Truly sad, but I'm not naive enough to think that will be an isolated incident. We have our share of poor sports too.
May the game be well played, better officiated :) and may there be no injuries to anyone!
:bu:
Guns Up!
03-02-2005, 05:18 PM
I'm from Plainview, the same town that Alesha is from. Belonged to the same church (College Heights Baptist Church) that Alesha belongs to, her dad is the preacher there, my parents are still members there. Sure she has a mean streak, but what West Texas girl doesn't. The girl sure can do some fishing, loves it. How sad that some Baylor fans are acting like that. Truly pityful, but you know what, Alesha's attitude would be "Bring em on!" It won't fase her a bit, in fact it will probably make her mad if she catches wind of this, and watch out then, she'll be unstopable!
Bball Girl
03-02-2005, 06:58 PM
Personally, I think anything said on a "school's board needs to stay there and away from Hoopscoop......
and also, not sure how the Baylor fans here could have control over the other 8000+ fans in the building.
AMEN! And Raider Power is without sin? That's quite something to come over here to HoopScoop and complain about the Baylor board with the junk that's being spewed on RP.
All of school boards including Raider Power often lapse into name calling of other players and other teams.....which is why we all LOVE HooopScoop.
spooky
03-02-2005, 09:58 PM
It won't fase her a bit, in fact it will probably make her mad if she catches wind of this, and watch out then, she'll be unstopable!
After the way she killed us in Waco last year, that's all we need is for some moron to get her riled up.
The Baylor board has more than it's share of idiots like those on that thread. They are mostly students, are mostly full of hot air, and rarely do they follow through on their plans for such infantile things.
It's a two-sided coin in some sense, in that a few years ago that sort of crap would still have been discussed, but only for men's games. 90% of the people on there would never have been caught dead talking about women's basketball 2-3 years ago. It's a shame that the women's game now has to deal with more the uncivilized behavior, but that's one of the negatives that comes with the many positives of the game really growing it's audience
YemenBear
03-03-2005, 12:43 AM
I tend to steer clear of the Baylorfans site. In general, I think it's message is mean-spirited. This thread raised enough interest to wander over there, but I couldn't find the offending post. Hopefully it has been deleted.
My biggest complaint about Baylorfans is lack of control over what it posted. The language can get offensive, fans posting from other schools are not given much of a warm welcome, and there's too much of an "in your face" mentality. Many Baylor fans and graduates have grown weary of the general tone and drifted off. Personally, I have never posted on Baylorfans. Seldom do I pay it much attention any more. In my humble opinion, fan sites must exercise some control over posts. Baylorfans does not, much to the detriment of the university.
mc6821
03-03-2005, 12:56 AM
YB, from what I've seen most fan boards are like that. Hoopscoop is thankfully one of the rare exceptions.
Guns Up!
03-03-2005, 12:59 AM
BBallgirl, You know that stuff would NEVER be allowed to stay on RaiderPower, it's not permitted because it's too sexual and vulgar. I've visited the site, I know what was written, and women should be very, very offended. As a friend of Alesha's I was. That crosses the line, period. :mad:
Bball Girl
03-03-2005, 06:50 AM
BBallgirl, You know that stuff would NEVER be allowed to stay on RaiderPower, it's not permitted because it's too sexual and vulgar. I've visited the site, I know what was written, and women should be very, very offended. As a friend of Alesha's I was. That crosses the line, period. :mad:
While it might not be allowed to "stay", it doesn't mean that it wouldn't be posted on RP. The trash talking on RP right now is not vulgar, but it is classless, childish and pointless and it ALL offends me and crosses MY line.
All of our teams deserve better than fans that would lower themselves to that kind of junk.
But the point we are all trying to make it what's the purpose of bring this junk here? It has ZERO to do with anyone on this board and ZERO to do with basketball.
Don't answer that question...let's just move on talk about basketball.
catladyok
03-03-2005, 01:12 PM
Isn't it sad that so many of the school message boards are mostly smack? Geez, a couple of the OU boards were so bad that they actually got nuked.
Conference boards seem to be a whole lot better. Perhaps the people who participate in conference communities are there because they are true fans of basketball and are not posting just for the purpose of irritating other fans. Some people are fans of the sport itself (as we are) while other folks are 'fans' of a specific school only. Guess there's a big difference, huh?
carolann
03-03-2005, 01:31 PM
BBallgirl, You know that stuff would NEVER be allowed to stay on RaiderPower, it's not permitted because it's too sexual and vulgar. I've visited the site, I know what was written, and women should be very, very offended. As a friend of Alesha's I was. That crosses the line, period.
All schools have such "fans". It takes a vigilant moderator and support from the majority of the on-line community to keep a board relatively clean and civil. If the remarks stayed on Baylor's site more than a few hours, the site needs more active moderating (that's why many school sites have multiple moderators to share the work.)
A Baylor player was the victim of such remarks on the TexasHoops highschool board, the year before she signed with Baylor. I was almost surprised the player stayed in the state.
Some people on this board, besides me, can probably remember some of the things said on RaiderPower a few years ago about some Texas players. The remarks were vulgar, sexual, and just sickening. The remarks were removed from the board but not quickly enough. Since then, the RaiderPower board has been o.k. if you ignore regular use of terms such as "whorns" and "trailer trash".
I'm quite aware that Texas "fans" can be just as vulgar with their insults but such fans, fortunately, don't frequent the womens board on Hornfans much. We do have fans that use insulting terms about other teams but not of the kind that started this thread. I don't frequent any other Texas boards.
Texan
03-03-2005, 01:58 PM
CarolAnn - You're right, as usual, that all schools have their share of fans that say and do things that are over the top. I've seen nastiness posted about individual players on boards before, but it usually doesn't stay up long. What's on Baylorfans right now is some of worst I've ever seen and it is still there.
These girls work so hard for very little return other than a chance to play and represent their schools, it seems like the least we can do is get smut like this off line as soon as we see it. I'll send a note to the moderator at Baylorfans and would appriciate it others would do the same.
Robin
03-03-2005, 02:45 PM
Although the thread of origin remains on Baylorfans.com, I believe that the particular offending post to which you refer has been deleted, as have the references to it. Thanks to the fan who reported it.
BaylorGalMulkeyFan
03-03-2005, 11:09 PM
Not blaming any of you Baylor fans on here, but I was looking at a Baylor message board and one person said that they were going to bring a sign that said something incredibly vulgar about Alesha Robertson. Has womens college basketball turned from friendly rivalries into outright below the belt hits?
Just looken for some of yalls opionons.
Why don't you take a look at some of this and then get back to me and let me know about below the belt hits and classy Texas Tech fans.
http://mb6.scout.com/fraiderpowerfrm5.showMessage?topicID=4921.topic
http://mb6.scout.com/fraiderpowerfrm5.showMessage?topicID=4928.topic
DblT81
03-04-2005, 12:16 AM
BaylorGalMulkeyFan, posting links like that violates the general tenets of this board.
I could post several other links where Tech fans are complimentary of Baylor and their coach. And I could post my sermon about how there is a difference in obscene personal attacks on individual players and other garbage that stupid fans post. But I won't, because people around here don't care for that at all. That is why I have stayed away from this topic until now.
One of the things that I asked for on RaiderPower yesterday was for participants to stand up for civility and take action. I believe some Baylor fans did just that to ask the moderators of their board to edit out the offensive stuff. I believe that several Tech fans stepped up last night to disagree with those who were making comments that really were not necessary or welcome. Some on the very topics linked above.
Frankly, I don't know why the Commissioner here allows you to continue to participate. I don't believe you are really a fan of Baylor or KMR.
Gator
03-04-2005, 10:15 AM
Why don't you take a look at some of this and then get back to me and let me know about below the belt hits and classy Texas Tech fans.
I believe what everyone else is saying is that stupid fans abound but personal attacks on players should NOT be tolerated no matter where they occur. Were all boards to oust stupid fans, most boards would not exist. Although I have not used your links and do not intend to, I would bet that I could find similar junk on every board which purports to support a Big 12 team but in fact serves more often for trash talk. I’m here for two reasons: 1) I really really like Big 12 WBB and want to know much about the enemy, errrrr, I mean which ever team is next on our schedule, :D as possible and 2) it seems that 99.9% of the other folks on this board are fans of every other Big 12 team, except when they are that week’s “opponent” and are committed to keeping even the discourse about our current “enemy” out of the trash talk gutter.
gobears20
03-04-2005, 10:31 AM
I own BaylorFans and I do not promote people to post remarks like they did about that Tech player. Its truly hard to manage a board when it takes anywhere from 2000-3000 total posts per-day. If people read through all of those posts in a day, it would be like reading a long book everyday. Just like any board or any school you will have trash talking fans or some that have had way too much to drink. You have probably heard from, "don't drink and drive." I tell my fans, "don't drink and post." ;) I have been around Baylor a long time and Baylor fans talk a lot of trash, because they get a lot of trash thrown their way. A lot of the trash talk comes from people saying, kick Baylor out of the Big 12 or Baylor can't win in the Big 12.
I have deleted a lot of post in my time of running that site and even banned some users and ip addresses.
I come to this site and promote it a lot, because it feels good to hear other schools talk nice things about Baylor.
swok34
03-04-2005, 10:48 AM
I tell my fans, "don't drink and post." ;)
I come to this site and promote it a lot, because it feels good to hear other schools talk nice things about Baylor.
Thank you, gobears......I'm glad you do.
Good idea :D........don't drink and post!!
Texan
03-04-2005, 10:58 AM
Gobears - Thanks for running a board and thanks for editing the thread.
BaylorGalMulkeyFan
03-04-2005, 11:58 AM
BaylorGalMulkeyFan, posting links like that violates the general tenets of this board.
I could post several other links where Tech fans are complimentary of Baylor and their coach. And I could post my sermon about how there is a difference in obscene personal attacks on individual players and other garbage that stupid fans post. But I won't, because people around here don't care for that at all. That is why I have stayed away from this topic until now.
One of the things that I asked for on RaiderPower yesterday was for participants to stand up for civility and take action. I believe some Baylor fans did just that to ask the moderators of their board to edit out the offensive stuff. I believe that several Tech fans stepped up last night to disagree with those who were making comments that really were not necessary or welcome. Some on the very topics linked above.
Frankly, I don't know why the Commissioner here allows you to continue to participate. I don't believe you are really a fan of Baylor or KMR.
Frankly I don't understand your logic. A Tech Fan comes on here a throws out an inflammatory post about Baylor fans and I am supposed to sit back and take it? I don't think so. You missed my point with posting the links to those threads. A Tech fan comes on and selectively lobs some bombs against Baylor fans and doesn't point out their own lack of class on their side? Not fair if you ask me. My entire point (which eluded you) was to point out that all schools have some good fans and some morons. We all know that. Last time I checked that wasn't exactly a news breaking story. I suspect the Tech fan that posted her story was simply lashing out against Baylor since they lost.
Please do me a favor and post the "terms" I violated by posting links to the threads on the Tech site critical of Baylor. Why is it that adults feel the need to chastise others for posting links to stories and/or threads that some might not like? I am an adult, I can read whatever I like whenever I like. I don't need some nanny telling me what I can and can't read. Who appointed you the guardian of what can and can't be read or posted on this site? Don't click on the link if you don't want to read it. Move on, big deal, but don't ever tell me what I can and can't read, and what other fans can and can't read. It's un-American.
YemenBear
03-04-2005, 12:07 PM
It's no secret BaylorGalMulkeyFan really gets under my skin. Before anyone lashes out or gets all bent out of shape, I'll say again I think the best response is ignore that individual's posts.
Bball Girl
03-04-2005, 12:11 PM
I'll second it YB...let's move on to more important things like BASKETBALL!
swok34
03-04-2005, 01:25 PM
It's no secret BaylorGalMulkeyFan really gets under my crawl. Before anyone lashes out or gets all bent out of shape, I'll say again I think the best response is ignore that individual's posts.
YemenBear.......there is a nifty little tool that comes with this board that allows you to do just that.
walkaway
03-04-2005, 02:05 PM
swok34, would you educate me on that nifty little tool? thanx in advance.
swok34
03-04-2005, 02:10 PM
swok34, would you educate me on that nifty little tool? thanx in advance.
If you click on a person's user name and view their profile.......it gives you the option of either placing them on "your buddy list" (I'm not sure what the benefits of that are) AND also allows you to place them on "your ignore list".
You will see that the individual that you have on your ignore list has made a post, but because you have them on ignore, you don't see the actual post.
DblT81
03-04-2005, 04:06 PM
Frankly I don't understand your logic. A Tech Fan comes on here a throws out an inflammatory post about Baylor fans and I am supposed to sit back and take it? I don't think so. You missed my point with posting the links to those threads. A Tech fan comes on and selectively lobs some bombs against Baylor fans and doesn't point out their own lack of class on their side? Not fair if you ask me. My entire point (which eluded you) was to point out that all schools have some good fans and some morons. We all know that. Last time I checked that wasn't exactly a news breaking story. I suspect the Tech fan that posted her story was simply lashing out against Baylor since they lost.
Please do me a favor and post the "terms" I violated by posting links to the threads on the Tech site critical of Baylor. Why is it that adults feel the need to chastise others for posting links to stories and/or threads that some might not like? I am an adult, I can read whatever I like whenever I like. I don't need some nanny telling me what I can and can't read. Who appointed you the guardian of what can and can't be read or posted on this site? Don't click on the link if you don't want to read it. Move on, big deal, but don't ever tell me what I can and can't read, and what other fans can and can't read. It's un-American.
I believe the originator of this topic, TexasLR, is a teenager. At least that is what her acquaintance Dyflam told me (excuse please, TexasLR, if I have that wrong). I also believe that the original point of the topic as clearly stated by TexasLR was not to criticize one group of fans, but to ask about the increasingly negative tone of bulletin board material directed at women's basketball. A decent topic for conversation for sure. However, TexasLR chose to name a specific example that happened to involve the BaylorFans board. Perhaps her question could have been more general, without naming an example (a lesson learned for a young poster), but perhaps she wanted to stress the seriousness of what she was referring.
As you will note by the time and date of the original post of this topic by TexasLR that she introduced this discussion more than a day prior to the Tech/Baylor game. So I guess she was a really good guesser of the game outcome and decided to get her anger out of the way early. :rolleyes:
By eliminating your participation, I meant for the administrator to remove your privilege to post so that we could ignore you altogether without further effort.
This is a private forum. Therefore, the forum owner can do as they wish. There is no law in America that says the owner has to allow you to post. You have no right, you have a privilege. You can read the board up until the day the owner requires registration and approval for everyone to gain access. But the owner can easily restrict access to you as a poster. I participate in another private message board that requires registration, approval, and passwords to participate. It keeps out the riff raff.
I don't really care what you read. I am not the guardian of this forum. I was just stating my opinion that the commissioner should revoke your privilege of posting.
This group of fans is a community like few others in the sports fan website world. We have discussed, and generally agreed, that to keep things (somewhat) civil ;), that we would not bring into this "house" the feuds and idiocy that exist on other fan websites. Thus my displeasure with your links to another fan message board. That is a tenet that helps to keep the temperature a little cooler here. Not that it doesn't get hot occasionally. We may have very strong opinions that differ from others, but we try to respect each other and behave and not throw flames.
I don't think the Commish has written rules. The rules are kind of like many of those in civil society: unwritten, but communicated and enforced by the community itself. So, I chastised you for breaking one of those unwritten rules about posting links to other sites where flame wars may be flaring.
I'm really glad you are an adult, such that you can understand all of this and comply.
How 'bout them :bu: !
BaylorGalMulkeyFan
03-04-2005, 04:15 PM
You are entitled to your opinion. I would never argue that. I just don't like being lectured to. Save it for someone else. I am quite confident the commish of this board is quite capable of deciding what to do without your input.
DblT81
03-04-2005, 05:29 PM
...confident the commish of this board is quite capable...
Now there is where we have some common ground, but I'm afraid here
...of deciding what to do without your input...
is where we differ. :cool:
Swok, thanks for the reminder about the funds and the ignore button. ;)
Add my thanks to those of DblT, swok. It seems there's a certain poster that just became the first person on my ignore list.
I also post at fan boards where it can get pretty ugly, and fairly often. But that's not what I'm here for. This is an oasis for me, and I like it like that. :cool:
walkaway
03-04-2005, 10:12 PM
swok34, thank you. please forgive my not being here to say that sooner.
I have been up to my neck in real life, but managed to see the Hawk game tonight. Thank you for putting up with me, elfdenmom! That was great fun.
Sheryl Swoopes is amazing. When you consider that it's been 13 years since she graduated from Tech, it's more amazing still. Sorry to go OT here on that game. Yesterday was, I guess, "karma" day for me, and it looks like it rubbed off on my beloved Lady Raiders ... :p ... but tonight really made me feel better.
TexasLR
03-04-2005, 11:19 PM
Wow, I started quite a thread. Sorry to all who I have offended. I'm not sure about the Rules of this board. I just assumed all boards were alike, but I was wrong, this board is cool. So drop the thread.. End of Discussion.
Nice win by the Bears. They are definetley final 4 material.. Maybe my Lady raiders will step it up a notch soon. :)
spooky
03-04-2005, 11:41 PM
No problem, TexasLR. Like Dblt said, it's pretty much an unwritten rule, so it's not necessarily evident unless you've been around here for awhile. In fact, I kinda violated it a few weeks back myself. Usually someone will step up and politely remind everyone of the accepted limits, and all is well.
Don't let it throw you. Keep on throwing things out there for discussion. Starting in about one month, we'll need plenty of things to help make it through off-season withdrawal.
BaylorGalMulkeyFan
03-05-2005, 10:08 PM
Now there is where we have some common ground, but I'm afraid here
is where we differ. :cool:
Swok, thanks for the reminder about the funds and the ignore button. ;)
It's cool. I don't want this to become a mean site either. That's why I protested the start of this thread. At this point I will let it go and just enjoy the tourney and the NCAA's coming up. Go Baylor !!!!
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