UT-OU

[BigUtFan]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a game!!!!! I really enjoyed being there, front-row center. It was exhilarating to the end. Congrats UT for the big win and possible NCAA Host. I will also add how impressed I was to see Coale and Conradt conversing at the beginning of the game and the mutual hug afterwards. The respect for each coach was obvious. I give kudos to Coale for her game attire. She was definitely working that outfit, and those pumps.....how did she do it the entire game? She looked great!!!!!!!!!!!

[AirLonghorn]

Rumor has it (my rumor...ha!) that Jody fixed Coale's hair before the game. A little too wild and curly, I might add. I saw her in the post-game interview, and she looked "a mess." I think running up and down the court in those 7" spikes wore her down.

Ori
ginally posted by BigUtFan:
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a game!!!!! I really enjoyed being there, front-row center. It was exhilarating to the end. Congrats UT for the big win and possible NCAA Host. I will also add how impressed I was to see Coale and Conradt conversing at the beginning of the game and the mutual hug afterwards. The respect for each coach was obvious. I give kudos to Coale for her game attire. She was definitely working that outfit, and those pumps.....how did she do it the entire game? She looked great!!!!!!!!!!!

[BigUtFan]

Originally posted by AirLonghorn:

You go AirLonghorn...........Were those actually 7" spikes? They looked like something from Prada........

[metromaniac]

Whether 7" or 5", with 15.8 seconds to go, regardless of the officiating, Caton, bad shooting, free throws or otherwise, OU had the ball with 15 seconds to go and the score tied.

They throw the ball in to Dales and she dribbles up slowly. She then passes to Caulfield, then to Ross, or vice versa, who passes to Jackson for the last shot in regulation.

Query-----How many of you would say that after Dales had just made a 3 to put OU up for the first or second time in the second half, that she shouldn't be holding the ball, in a 1-4 set. Texas is in a man and Hastings is guarding Dales. She drives with 7-8 seconds to go from the top of the key and gets fouled, shoots or dishes. If she can't shoot or doesn't get fouled she dishes to Caulfield or Ross.

Shouldn't one of those three be shooting this shot to win in regulation, more than anyone else?

[AirLonghorn]

Originally posted by metromaniac:

I think Coales called the play. I was sitting right behind her, and with 10 seconds left on the clock, she took off those 7" spiked heels, held one of them up to Dales and said, "Take the last shot and this is going right up your....." I don't know why she said that. It's perplexing, isn't it?
Whether 7" or 5", with 15.8 seconds to go, regardless of the officiating, Caton, bad shooting, free throws or otherwise, OU had the ball with 15 seconds to go and the score tied.

They throw the ball in to Dales and she dribbles up slowly. She then passes to Caulfield, then to Ross, or vice versa, who passes to Jackson for the last shot in regulation.

Query-----How many of you would say that after Dales had just made a 3 to put OU up for the first or second time in the second half, that she shouldn't be holding the ball, in a 1-4 set. Texas is in a man and Hastings is guarding Dales. She drives with 7-8 seconds to go from the top of the key and gets fouled, shoots or dishes. If she can't shoot or doesn't get fouled she dishes to Caulfield or Ross.

Shouldn't one of those three be shooting this shot to win in regulation, more than anyone else?

[swok34]

metro........don't you think they anticipated Stacey Dales being heavily guarded and Laneisha wasn't exactly burning the house down with her shooting.........it makes sense to me in that it may have been the last player Texas suspected would take the shot.......

That's my guess........and airhead, your comments are bordering on digusting, IMO........and I find a lot of your comments completely useless and eating space......isn't there a Texas fan board where they appreciate these kind of comments?

[AirLonghorn]

Originally posted by swok34:

I think you take your life and basketball WAY TOO SERIOUSLY,SWOK

metro........don't you think they anticipated Stacey Dales being heavily guarded and Laneisha wasn't exactly burning the house down with her shooting.........it makes sense to me in that it may have been the last player Texas suspected would take the shot.......

That's my guess........and airhead, your comments are bordering on digusting, IMO........and I find a lot of your comments completely useless and eating space......isn't there a Texas fan board where they appreciate these kind of comments?

[AirLonghorn]

Originally posted by AirLonghorn:


fyi: Dales was limping very badly at that point...she could barely walk. No matter what play is set by the coach, things happen. That probably was not the call, but the defense closed the play down, and that was all that was left.

And as for you Swok, I'm sorry you find my comments so offensive. Some of you take this WAY, WAY to seriously. These are just kids out there on the court. We should receive our pleasure from watching players, such as Dales and Stephens, and being in awe at their abilities....not what you hope...or wish...or think....Incidentally, I don't find "your" comments "eating space," I just find you "eating" with "arm-chair quarterback syndrome".....period. Lighten up and give these kids a chance to inspire you!

[swok34]

metro........were you at the game?

I've asked the question on a different post about Caton Hill and her fouls, what was your impression if you went to the game?

[AirLonghorn]

Originally posted by swok34:

She had 5 of them...all flagrant and more-than-obvious
metro........were you at the game?

I've asked the question on a different post about Caton Hill and her fouls, what was your impression if you went to the game?

[DblT81]

AirLonghorn,

Swok is the most congenial poster I have seen on any wcbb message board. Swok and I have been posting on the ESPN board since its early days. She is very even keeled when it comes to supporting her team. She is not a braggart. She gives credit where credit is due. She is not rude and does not say stupid things in anger. She is a fan of the game and loves her team, but she does not take it too seriously. She does not need to lighten up and, believe me, she does let the kids inspire her.

For you to get on Swok's nerves, you must be very obnoxious because I have seen her be nice to even the biggest jerks.

[Bobcat4956]

I was at the game and they were all legit fouls. She obviously came to play very physical and it got her in trouble. But I guess it did not affect our team that we lost Kenya Larkin and Heather Schreiber to fouls. Only OU was affected.

[HoopScoop]

AirLonghorn - You are new to HoopScoop.net and it would probably be advisable to make sure and read through some posts and get a feel for this discussion forum before accusing people like swok34 of certain things. swok34 has been a part of this board for several years and posted thousands of times. Your humor is a bit hard to get a read on and when we can't hear the tone in your voice and see your body language with our eyes - sometimes it's very hard to understand what you intend to be humorous and what you are serious about.

swok34 posted her comments right after you said:

I think Coales called the play. I was sitting right behind her, and with 10 seconds left on the clock, she took off those 7" spiked heels, held one of them up to Dales and said, "Take the last shot and this is going right up your....." I don't know why she said that. It's perplexing, isn't it?

And your reply said swok34 took it too serious. Are you implying what you said was in jest? If so, then I do have a problem with what you said. I thought you meant it seriously although I'd be suprised if Sherri would say such a thing.

[Bob_Ballew]

HoopScoop, Thank You!!

[Jennifer]

Originally posted by Zo3157:
HoopScoop, Thank You!!

I second that.

Personally, I've just begun skipping over Longhorn's posts, and it doesn't appear that I've missed much of substance.

[Press]

Thanks for saying something, HoopScoop! I was beginning to think I was the only one thinking it was not in the least bit funny and way out of line for THIS forum.

[KSUron]

Airlonghorn, as a fan you do say some worthwhile things. I'd like to see you stay on the board but not if you continue posts like the one above. I took your post to be an attemp at humor when I read it. The attemp failed because it is out of line and in poor taste. Before you decide I must be a stuffy sheltered out of touch person let me share a few things with you. I am a Navy veteran, a former ambulance crew member and a hospital administrator. I have raced stock cars for a hobby. There is nothing you can say or think up that I have not heard before. Vulgar references, particularly when they are attributed to a popular and respected coach will get you no place on this board. Humor is good. Vugarity is not. In any social setting in life you will find that you need to conform to the social norms around you or you will not be liked. In this forum we do have humor but we don't like vulgar humor. Please "conform to the norm" or go find a place where they love and appreciate you. (but don't tell me where it is, I don't want to go there)

[AirLonghorn]

Originally posted by HoopScoop:
AirLonghorn - You are new to HoopScoop.net and it would probably be advisable to make sure and read through some posts and get a feel for this discussion forum before accusing people like swok34 of certain things. swok34 has been a part of this board for several years and posted thousands of times. Your humor is a bit hard to get a read on and when we can't hear the tone in your voice and see your body language with our eyes - sometimes it's very hard to understand what you intend to be humorous and what you are serious about.

swok34 posted her comments right after you said:

And your reply said swok34 took it too serious. Are you implying what you said was in jest? If so, then I do have a problem with what you said. I thought you meant it seriously although I'd be suprised if Sherri would say such a thing.

If you thought this could, in any possible way, be a serious or true comment, I'm more than in a state of shock. NO coach,ever, would say such a thing to a player. Would they? Sherri Coales say a thing like that? Not in this life, anyway. Now that, indeed, is taking it too seriously! I hate to burst your bubble, but "Saturday Night LIve" was not a documentary. Visual perception and body language aside, I would hope that anyone with an I.Q. of over 80 would understand that this comment was a ridiculous satire.

However, I do understand that this forum is "your forum," not mine; this venue is "your venue," not mine. I respect that, and I accept that. I don't know who the "you" are, but it's more than obvious that your demands to me "to conform to the norm," as one patron put it, projects a "closed, good'ol boy/girl concept" which I thought was something which had faded away with prior generations. Yet I respect your beliefs and opinions on this topic. As an "outsider" to this forum, perhaps I see more clearly than many of you how overly consumed some of you seem to be (as I said to Swok: "too seriously"). Swok, my apologies. I was not "attacking you," I promise you that. I was, quite simply, projecting my view, as you have so eloquently done with me.

I apologize to all of you and to "your" forum for any inconvenience which I have caused. "You all" have developed a site for local women's basketball which is informative and fun to view. At least that's my "outsider's" view....without body language or tonal inclinations. Cheers to all of you, and "Go Big XII" to a National Title!

Just to set the record "straight" (if that's a possibility in this forum), Sherri Coale's heels were not 7". They were 6". Yes...that, too, was a joke. Once again, I apologize.

[dem]

I have been getting extremely envious of all you Big 12 fans reporting on your great seats close to the floor. Therefore let me remind you of how fortunate you are. At Iowa State, there are NO good seats left to be had. They are all tightly controlled and jealously guarded by season ticket holders, all of whom had the foresight and confidence in the program to snatch them up a few years ago. Now, a season ticket will entitle you to a seat in the balcony, unless you are willing to cough up several hundred dollars in annual gifts to National Cyclone Club. Even then, you'll be lucky to get a seat anywhere below the balcony, and it will probably be behind a basket. (Over 10,000 season tickets are now sold each year.)

There are some good student seats available on a game-to-game basis, I think. But otherwise, forget it.

What about at the USA in Lubbock? Could I just show up and buy a single-game ticket for a seat that doesn't require a spare oxygen tank?

[AirLonghorn]

Originally posted by dem:
I have been getting extremely envious of all you Big 12 fans reporting on your great seats close to the floor. Therefore let me remind you of how fortunate you are. At Iowa State, there are NO good seats left to be had. They are all tightly controlled and jealously guarded by season ticket holders, all of whom had the foresight and confidence in the program to snatch them up a few years ago. Now, a season ticket will entitle you to a seat in the balcony, unless you are willing to cough up several hundred dollars in annual gifts to National Cyclone Club. Even then, you'll be lucky to get a seat anywhere below the balcony, and it will probably be behind a basket. (Over 10,000 season tickets are now sold each year.)

There are some good student seats available on a game-to-game basis, I think. But otherwise, forget it.

What about at the USA in Lubbock? Could I just show up and buy a single-game ticket for a seat that doesn't require a spare oxygen tank?

I should think that, given the fan base, USA Arena would have plenty of extra oxygen tanks. Sorry gang. I can't help it. This was too good to pass up. Now to all of you in Lubbock, and to all of you who "run this forum," I apologize, in advance, for such a tacky and crude comment. Sorry!

[Bball Girl]

Yep, you could show up in Lubbock and potentially get a good seat. Some PSL seats and individual seats are open on a game by game basis. If all the student seats aren't sold prior to the game, they sell those...they're behind the basket.

[two cents]

AirLonghorn,

I was reluctant to comment on some things because I'm new to this board as well. Even so, I piped up once. I agree with KSUron that some of your posts have merit. Most do not. Yes, I understood your post above to be a satire, and it certainly was ridiculous. What does that have to do with anything? It was still vulgar. I also did not appreciate your aspersion to Marsha Sharp as a drunkard. Nor did I appreciate your attempts to ridicule Baylor's denominational founding. Those remarks may not have been vulgar, but they were certainly crass. "As an 'outsider' to this forum," perhaps you are correct in your observation that we are "consumed" with the sport and the remarkable degree of competition that this conference offers. My observation is that nobody has posted more on this forum in recent days than you. My conclusion is that you are "consumed" with provoking a response to your pathetically juvenile humor. If so; this thread is evidence of success. Congratulations.

The norm you've been asked to conform to is respectful participation. Do you mean to suggest that the fading of a "closed good'ol boy/girl concept" implies the fading of respect for other human beings as well as a sense of decency? I am less offended by some of your relatively impersonal "poly" "ester" type of humor. If you want to persist in that...okay...fine. As stated on another thread, I find this stuff inane, but whatever floats your boat. Hey, I was in junior high once myself, and I was probably even more ornery than you.

[swok34]

HoopScoop, Thank You!!

Ditto for me.

I apologize to you, air, for not being more specific in my comment to you......I really don't like reading things like this about coaches and/or players anywhere, anytime, anyplace.....I will always feel that way.....and I will always respond in defense, whether I like the particular coach or player. Joke or not.

she took off those 7" spiked heels, held one of
them up to Dales and said, "Take the last shot and this is going right up your....."

I would really appreciate if you would not copy an ENTIRE post and repaste it....that was what I meant in saying that you use up a lot of wasted space....I'm curious if maybe you have your forum set up to copy the entire post and repaste it.

[metromaniac]

SWOK34---Yes I was at the game. Caton's first 2 fouls, within the first 3 minutes,looked obvious to be called. One appeared a reach in type and the other a kind of clumsy bump. She then sat til about the 8-9 minute mark and fouled again on a play that I was not surprised a foul was called. Caton didn't start the second half and went in around 16 min's. Within 1-2 minutes, she was setting a screen for Dales up high and moved her body and shoulder to the right. Coach Bo rose and screamed onto the court. He wasn't yelling at the Ref, but Caton. It was a foul. Out she goes again until the 7-8 minute mark. Now the fifth foul was, IMO, pure BS. After being back in the game for about a minute, Caton was trying to run back down the center of the court on offense. Not sure which Horn; but she was running backward in front of Caton slowing her down, keeping her from running, or trotting freely and bumping Caton. After about 30 feet of this, at the 3 point line, Caton took her right arm and just pushed it out straight and to the right to just start to move into the lane. There was no pass coming to Caton and none of this was involved in any play. IMO, the Lady Horn probably fouled Caton 2-3 times before Caton was observed just making the last bump. Should have been a no-call at best.

Regarding the last shot in regulation, they may have anticipated Stacey being doubled, but she wasn't. She was being guarded by Annisa Hastings out front high between the 3 pt line and half court. I also didn't notice Stacey limping, til the overtime. To me, without anybody running to help Hastings to force a pass or to double her, it just looked like she had room to drive and or pass.

Way back when Texas beat ISU, I made a similar thread about why Gahan, Wilson, or Welle didn't take their last shot. No slam at anyone, player or coach, intended or implied. Just my personal belief that for the most part, on the road, I like the strategy of trying to get the ball in the hands of my top players, especially if one is an All-American, in that situation. Heck, those foul loving ref's may just give her the benefit of the doubt in such a situation.

[swok34]

thank you, thank you.....metro.

I think the OU coaching staff is going to have to have a little talk with Caton, IF they find Scott "yardbird" Yarborough amongst the refing crew.

I saw OU have a chance to beat Texas in a tournament game almost 3 years ago now, and they chose perimeter shooter freshman Jadrea Seeley. All the room under the basket was pretty sealed, so Whaley and Caufield were getting bottled up. Last year, it was senior Sunny Hardeman that shot the final chance to tie basket from the perimeter.....Jackson has done really well at the end of games (i.e. OSU in Stillwater).

[elfdenmom]

Thank you Hoop Scoop, swok 34, DoubleT 81, and two cents for your responses to Airhorn's remarks.

I love this site because of the maturity of the vast majority of its posters and the information about womens' basketball and insights into the various teams and players. Heaven knows, I can
find disgusting personal attacks and vulgar and juvenile drivel on virtually any other site around.

There are a number of talented, clever and witty posters on this site. Perhaps if Airhorn sticks around, he may learn something, but then again...