RPI's

[swok34]

has anyone been keeping up with the RPI's? I've started keeping up with OU's since they started season play.......
this morning's is incredible with SOS;
RPI Rank 1st/SOS 2nd

OU #2 #3
TX #6 #5
ISU #9 #4
TTU #11 #2
KSU #13 #24
CU #18 #15
BU #33 #91
MU #41 #73
NU #58 #62
OSU #72 #46

and our friends on the bottom rung:

TAMU #174 #256
KU #187 #51

wow, TAMU is the only team with a SOS that gets out of the 100's and it get's way out, I'm surprised.

Tennessee leads at #1 and #1 SOS

[BEAR SKIN]

Does this mean that, based on RPI alone (ignoring automatics from small conferences) Big 12 deserves 9 teams in the NCAA's?

[RaiderPower1]

The BigXII may deserve it but they ain't gonna get it. That's way to many from one conference. I would bet on 7 being the number of teams in the NCAAs.

[RaiderPower1]

The newest polls for week 12:
<pre style="font size: 10pt;">
AP:
1. Connecticut (45) (20-0) 1,125 1
2. Tennessee (16-1) 1,080 2
3. Stanford (18-1) 1,026 4
4. Oklahoma (15-2) 960 3
5. Duke (15-3) 921 6
6. Vanderbilt (18-3) 899 7
7. South Carolina (17-2) 806 8
8. Louisiana Tech (12-3) 779 10
9. Wisconsin (16-2) 773 5
10. Purdue (14-3) 744 11
11. Kansas St (17-2) 628 9
12. Texas Tech (11-5) 624 15
13. Texas (13-3) 606 12
14. Iowa St (14-4) 532 14
15. Baylor (14-3) 469 13
16. Virginia Tech (15-2) 357 21
17. Georgia (13-4) 354 16
18. Florida (13-5) 353 18
19. Colorado St (15-3) 276 20
20. Colorado (13-6) 236 22
21. North Carolina (14-4) 217 17
22. Auburn (14-4) 175 19
23. Minnesota (14-3) 168 NR
24. Boston College (14-3) 126 25
25. Old Dominion (11-5) 111 24</pre>

<pre style="font size: 10pt;">
Coaches Poll:
1. Connecticut (40) (20-0) 1,000 1
2. Tennessee (16-1) 947 3
3. Stanford (18-1) 902 4
4. Oklahoma (15-2) 891 2
5. Vanderbilt (18-3) 839 5
6. Duke (15-3) 789 6
7. South Carolina (17-2) 714 8
8. Wisconsin (16-2) 678 7
9. Louisiana Tech (12-3) 670 10
10. Iowa St (14-4) 591 9
11. Purdue (14-3) 567 13
12. Texas (13-3) 532 12
13. Texas Tech (11-5) 481 16
14. Baylor (14-3) 460 11
15. Kansas St (17-2) 439 15
16. Georgia (13-4) 398 14
17. Virginia Tech (15-2) 330 20
18. Florida (13-5) 319 18
19. Colorado (13-6) 248 19
20. North Carolina (14-4) 244 17
21. Colorado St (15-3) 238 21
22. Auburn (14-4) 142 22
23. Boston College (14-3) 79 NR
24. LSU (10-6) 72 25
25. Minnesota (14-3) 64 NR</pre>

Only Missouri was in the others receiving votes in the AP poll with 1 pt.


[This message has been edited by HoopScoop (edited 01-21-2002).]

[mred]

Good for Minnesota! They upset Wisconsin last week and have been playing well all season. I rooted for Ball State when Coach Oldfield went there, and I've been rooting for Minnesota this season now that she's there.

[mred]

Originally posted by RaiderPower1:
The BigXII may deserve it but they ain't gonna get it. That's way to many from one conference. I would bet on 7 being the number of teams in the NCAAs.

Agreed. Eight is the likely absolute maximum, and I can't see any fewer than six making it in. Seven is definitely the most likely number.

[mred]

Here's how my computer rankings are right now:

5 Oklahoma
12 Kansas State
13 Colorado
14 Iowa State
16 Texas Tech
20 Baylor
21 Texas
43 Missouri
80 Nebraska
84 Oklahoma State
134 Texas A&M
234 Kansas

[CyRox98]

Originally posted by mred:
Good for Minnesota! They upset Wisconsin last week and have been playing well all season. I rooted for Ball State when Coach Oldfield went there, and I've been rooting for Minnesota this season now that she's there.

We've been pulling for Minnesota as well this year. Brenda has done a great job with the Gophers. Saw in the paper tho, that there is a chance the program may be shut down for two seasons due to more of the same mess former coach Littlejohn caused before she left. The university is trying to fight it saying nothing new happened after the initial discovery of violations and what the U of M reported on its own. Time will tell, but it would be awful for Coach Oldfield and her team to have to go thru that.

[ISUbballfan]

If they shut down for 2 years wouldn't that end the program. Who would want to go there? What would the coach do? I can't ever remember a program being shut down for a couple of year. I've heard of teams not being able to to go to post season tournaments.

[mred]

There's no way they'll shut the program down. It was mentioned as a possibility, but it'll never happen. I figure the worst possible punishment is a couple of years without a postseason.

[dem]

Originally posted by mred:
Good for Minnesota! They upset Wisconsin last week and have been playing well all season. I rooted for Ball State when Coach Oldfield went there, and I've been rooting for Minnesota this season now that she's there.


I've also been cheering on Brenda's Gophers this season, especially with the unfortunate shortage of highlights in Ames. She has done an INCREDIBLE job, taking one of the most dispirited and damaged teams among all the major conferences and turning them into fearless fire-breathers ready to take on the world. Along with K-State, one of the really great and pleasant surprises of the season. Look for Oldfield to get strong support for national coach of the year.

Kind of wishing now that we could have hung onto her for another season or two. Fennelly has been saying all along since she left that she was headed straight up the ladder in the women's coaching ranks.

[swok34]

Wasn't there a violation in another program in Minnesota and the reason they are considering shutting down the program is "repeat violations"?.....I know Nell Fortner/ESPN commented on this Sunday (though I was in between naps)...and she made the comment that it would truly be a tragedy for this to happen because it penalizes a first year coach who's doing a great job and penalizes the womens bb team the heaviest for violations that started in another sport....was it football?..either that or men's basketball, it was a "major" sport..

[mred]

Originally posted by swok34:
was it football?..either that or men's basketball, it was a "major" sport..

Both, I believe. The reason I can't see them shutting it down is because the violations in MBB were more severe. Like you said, it punishes the last sport to be caught, not the one that has the biggest problem.

http://www.canoe.ca/Slam010514/bkc_min-ap.htmlWBB violations</a>
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/news/1999/05/21/minnesota_criminal/Football and MBB violations</a>
http://news.mpr.org/features/199903/11_newsroom_cheating/timeline.shtmlMBB scandal timeline</a>



[This message has been edited by mred (edited 01-22-2002).]

[BEAR SKIN]

Don't know anything about the Minn. WBB program. Think the Golden Gophers' earlier problem had something to do with men's basketball and improper academic help (cheating.)

Some of us older SW Conference fans can remember the SMU death penalty in FOOTBALL. It can happen.