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swok34
11-04-2003, 12:40 PM
I believe the preseason coaches poll comes out later today...
here's a variety of articles to come from ESPN this week:

The ESPN Preview:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?page=2003preview_index

Nancy Lieberman's rankings (Big XII) only listed:

3. Texas Longhorns (29-6)
The top four scorers -- including a trio of Wade Trophy candidates in Stacy Stephens, Heather Schreiber and Jamie Carey -- from last season' s Final Four team are back. This is a really good halfcourt team with great balance, but everything goes through Stephens, who averaged 14.4 points last season and really opens up the wings if she does her job inside. Carey, the former Stanford player who is in her second season at Texas, was an integral part of last season's success. She showed she can score, run the team and distribute the ball. Kala Bowers, Nina Norman (remember that big shot she hit against Tennessee last season as a freshman?) and Tiffany Jackson, one of the top high school prospects who chose Texas over Tennessee, will keep the Longhorns heavy favorites.

4. Kansas State Wildcats (29-5)
With the best center in the country in Nicole Ohlde and three of the nation's most talented juniors (Kendra Wecker, Megan Mahoney, Laurie Koehn), the Wildcats have plenty of talent. But after impressive regular-season runs, Kansas State suffered a couple of disappointing finishes in the NCAA Tournament the past two seasons (losing to ODU in 2002 and then at home to Notre Dame in the second round last March). Everybody thought this was a Final Four team a year ago, and it should have been. Kansas State has plenty to prove this season and must step it up.

18. Texas Tech Lady Raiders (29-6)
When Plenette Pierson was suspended two years ago, Jia Perkins got an early introduction to what it would take to be the Lady Techsters' leader. Now that Pierson has graduated to the WNBA, Perkins should have no problem stepping up her game to an even higher level for her senior season. Sophomore point guard Erin Grant, junior center Cisti Greenwalt and senior guard Natalie Ritchie also are all very talented. Greenwalt has been very impressive at Tech. She's big, can run and likes to get in the middle and mix it up. Expect Perkins to improve on her 1-for-19 performance from 3-point land last season.

22. Oklahoma Sooners (19-13)
The Sooners had probably one of their worst moments in program history last year on Nov. 26 when two players -- including Caton Hill, a starter from the previous year's Final Four team -- each suffered a torn ACL on the same day. Still, OU forged on for a 19-13 record and NCAA invitation. The silver lining, however, was that several young players, especially Beky Preston, got a lot of valuable experience and playing time. And now, OU returns 78 percent of its scoring and 69 percent of its rebounding from 2002-03. Hill's return provides an immediate boost; she's one of the top power forwards in the game, loves to attack the basket and is a hard-nosed veteran with 29 career double-doubles. Senior Maria Villarroel (15 points per game last season), junior Dionnah Jackson (11.8) and Chelsi Welch, who averaged 12.1 points last year as the Big 12's co-freshman of the year, also return and anchor a solid backcourt. Villarroel, who ranked 14th in the nation in field-goal percentage (57.6), had an outstanding summer of international competition, averaging 23 points for the Venezuelan national team.

23. Colorado Buffaloes (24-8)
The Buffs had a terrific season in 2002-03, and as has become the norm for Ceal Barry, were one of the finest defensive teams you'll ever see with man-to-man principles. That defense will be back again this season to disrupt other teams, get in the passing lanes and on the glass and build on ball pressure. Colorado had a very exciting run last season in the regionals, and with its top two scorers back, should be able to build on that momentum. The key for Colorado is whether the Buffs can keep the score low and close; their defense is so good that it gives them the opportunity to win every game if it's a tight margin down the stretch.

35TangoTango
11-04-2003, 02:04 PM
Well, if you don't think that word gets around, note the reference to Texas Tech as the "Lady Techsters". That, along with the rediculously low ranking has attracted notice on several message boards.

If you go back now and read the ESPN article again, you will notice that Tech is now referred to as the "Lady Raiders" http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

She didn't do anything about correcting the ranking, though.

Nancy also picked Illinois at number 17 - one above TT. Illinois is at OU Dec. 28

Also interesting that she knows Oklahoma's whole starting five by name, but knows no one at Colorado. That's Bjorkland, with a "J", Nancy! http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/eek.gif

swok34
11-04-2003, 07:56 PM
And here it is, the preseason coaches poll:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=1653584

1. Connecticut
2. Duke
3. Texas 29-6 (3) 896 Waited 16 years to earn return trip to Final Four; should be headed for second straight appearance.
4. Tennessee
5. Kansas State 29-5 (10) 824 Nation's top center, three of country's top juniors have plenty of motivation after second-round NCAA loss at home last March.
6. Texas Tech 29-6 (6) 727 Despite missing Pierson, should be fine with Grant and Perkins leading the way.
7. Stanford
8. Penn State
9. Purdue
10. LSU
11. Georgia
12. Louisiana Tech
13. Minnesota
14. North Carolina
15. Ohio State
16. Notre Dame
17. Rutgers
18. UC Santa Barbara
19. Utah
20. Colorado 24-8 (19) 241 Is there a team that plays tougher defense than Ceal Barry's Buffs? Time for talented Tera Bjorklund to come up big in big games.
21. Oklahoma 19-13 (NR) 184 Last year's nightmare just a distant memory with a healthy Caton Hill joining Maria Villarroel and Dionnah Jackson.
22. Arizona
23. TCU
24. Virginia
25. Auburn

Others receiving votes: George Washington (25-7) 108; Boston College (22-9) 94; Villanova (28-6) 70; Virginia Tech (22-10) 64; Vanderbilt (22-10) 57; DePaul (22-10) 53; South Carolina (23-8) 48; Washington (22-8) 44; Mississippi State (24-8) 29; Arkansas (22-11) 28; Michigan State (17-11) 27; Cincinnati (23-8) 21; Liberty (26-4) 18; Old Dominion (20-11) 14; Creighton (24-9) 11; Houston (15-13) 11; New Mexico (24-9) 10; Western Kentucky (22-9) 10; Chattanooga (26-5) 9; Southwest Missouri State (18-13) 9; Clemson (14-15) 8; Wisconsin-Green Bay (28-4) 8; North Carolina-Wilmington (22-6) 7; Saint Joseph's (19-11) 7; Charlotte (21-9) 6; Colorado State (20-13) 6; Arizona State (16-14) 4; Pepperdine (22-8) 4; Xavier (20-10) 4; Iowa (17-15) 3; Florida State (17-13) 2; Oregon (12-16) 2; Toledo (20-10) 2; UCLA (18-11) 2; Brigham Young (19-12) 1; Holy Cross (24-8) 1; Middle Tennessee (18-12) 1; Montana (20-10) 1.

Guns Up!
11-04-2003, 11:07 PM
No arguing with who the strongest conference is, Big 12 no doubt!

Guns Up!
11-04-2003, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by soonerman:
If you go back now and read the ESPN article again, you will notice that Tech is now referred to as the "Lady Raiders" http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

After a certain Lady Raider Fan wrote and corrected her! http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

Bob_Ballew
11-05-2003, 12:24 AM
[This message has been edited by Zo3157 (edited 11-04-2003).]

DblT81
11-05-2003, 01:47 AM
Zo, I don't know what you started to say, but don't you wonder how Auburn can be #6 and the team that they barely beat in the finals of the WNIT is not ranked?

Row6Seat10
11-05-2003, 02:03 AM
Of all the coaches voting in this poll, it seems like a few of them would of at least voted for Baylor. The Bears failed to register a point in the "Others receiving votes" The Bears could probably beat most of the teams that are "also receiving votes".

Here's a poll from ESPN where you can put in your two cents worth on the up coming season. If you haven't already done so.
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=470

Bob_Ballew
11-06-2003, 10:26 PM
DblT81, I was surprised to see that Baylor did not get a vote. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/confused.gif Especially since they made the finals of the WNIT last season and are returning all but one player from last years team. Although there are some injuries to the squad, the Lady Bears will beat some good teams this season, even some strong teams in the south division. I certainly agree that Baylor could beat several of the teams in the coach's poll.

Jimi
11-06-2003, 11:20 PM
Maybe we should send the "Judge" after the voters Zo!

ChipperF1
11-06-2003, 11:25 PM
I don't see how Auburn is a ranked commodity either? They have a WNIT championship, BUT to put them into the top 25 assumes a level of improvement that is geometric in scope. I think they'll improve but not that much in the short term. I feel the same about Baylor at this time, but that will change in both cases once play begins.

Some of it I feel is still based on bias towards the SEC. An SEC team is more likely to get the benefit of the doubt early on than a Big 12 team is. It just a matter of respect. This here conference is gaining that respect, but it isn't there yet. That may change drastically come late March-early April.

Its the preseason polls in 99% of them are throwing darts on the wall hoping they'll. I'll be the first to admit to that. After the first 10 or so teams, its junk bond speculation.

What I can say is, the Big 12 has a lot recommend itself. Top to bottom, this league may be the nation's best.

mc6821
11-07-2003, 12:58 PM
We'll get a good look at Auburn one week from now. I hope all you Buff fans show up!

carolann
11-12-2003, 12:29 AM
Associated Press Preseason Top 25 Poll

Plenty of respect for the Big 12 conference here with 3 top 10 teams and 2 more in the top 25. Baylor is in the 'getting votes' category.

1. Connecticut
2. Duke
3. TEXAS
4. Tennessee
5. KANSAS STATE
6. Stanford
7. Purdue
8. Penn State
9. LSU
10. TEXAS TECH
11. Georgia
12. Louisiana Tech
13. Minnesota
14. North Carolina
15. Notre Dame
16. Rutgers
17. Ohio State
18. UCSB
19. Utah
20. COLORADO
21. OKLAHOMA
22. Auburn
23. Arizona
24. TCU
25. Virginia
Also receiving votes: George Washington 71, Vanderbilt 64, Boston College 45, Washington 32, DePaul 30, Michigan State 29, Villanova 28, Virginia Tech 21, Illinois 14, BAYLOR 12 , SW Missouri State 8, Arizona State 7, Harvard 6, Miami 6, Cincinnati 5, BYU 4, Louisville 4, Saint Joseph's PA) 4, Creighton 2, New Mexico 2 , Arkansas 1, Liberty 1, Montana 1, Pittsburgh 1,