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Scrappy
01-30-2003, 10:42 PM
Hello HoopScoopers!
I’m a first time poster, long time lurker.
I love this time of year when the conference race starts to heat up. The niceties start to turn more negative and the sarcasm between rival schools begins to resemble that on “other” sites. Up to now, it’s pretty much a love-fest and that’s fine, just a little superficial to me.
I see everyone pulling their swords and ready to go..lots of positioning, pose downs, in-depth homer analyses, justifications for winning and losing, not mentally tough, can't win on the road, too soft, too physical, etc., etc. Some of you really probably know what you’re talking about, but some just don’t, I’m convinced. I won’t mention any names today.
And we always get our UT fans trying to convince us that the horns really didn't just arrive on the scene, but as JohnHenry, tells us, "Jody made some sacrifices while she was building Top 20 programs in other sports as women's AD during the 90s....", so she let the wbb program slide. WHATEVER! Is that really the whole story, John Henry? http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif If I were her, I’d find that person that held a gun to her head demanding that she spread herself too thin. Statements such as that are just downright arrogant, butt that’s okay, they’re happy that Jody still has a grasp on the game and can actually coach….this week.
I have another question for UT fans, the sourpuss coach, Harston, what’s her problem? She always looks so putout and *****y. Is she responsible for anything? I can’t imagine that type of attitude would be attribute to any program.
There’s always that strain in the posts between UT and TTU they’re somewhat cordial, but the underlying tone is arrogant, condescending and not very respectful, but isn’t that what it’s all about? Do we really have to all be friends? Both sides have a hard time giving credit to the other when it’s due, but I understand there a history there and that makes of some good BBS BS.
What is “Sooner Magic” anyway? And that whole “Sherri Coale walks on water” gets a little old, but hey, she’s a Geno prodigy now and ESPN loves her, she wears pumps and short skirts and teases that hair out to the high heavens, not typically seen on the sidelines these days. I think she is a good coach and her kids play hard, but her confident arrogance sometimes rubs me a little wrong, but if she can back it up, then go girl!
I wonder if Sherri ever talked to Jody, “one of her friends and mentors”, about the fit that Jody threw when OU wanted to hire a HS coach to join the Big XII?
Marsha Sharp basically recruited Phylesha Whaley, for Sherri Coale, but they deserved a good player to get that program out of the gutter. I’m sure Marsha regrets that move now that Sherri is dipping into Marsha’s backyard for recruits and they still manage to act like they genuinely like each other. Should we call her “Classy” or “Sassy”? J
We’re starting to see Chipper slide a little and start to rag on his Huskers, even after he took a vow not to do that anymore. And Elfdenmom, just tries to be so positive, kind and supportive and still gets flamed. I could go on and on….
The Twister Sister fans have been pretty quiet this year, with the down year and all, but what a win last night! I bet Coach Bill’s blood pressure is off the charts! Help is on the way, though, …isn’t it? I hope he’s starting to recruit a few athletes in the process because he’ll need them to get past the 2ndt round in years to come. I think last year proved to him that he needed to upgrade in that area.
Sic’em, Lady Bears, have hit the Big XII wall, so to speak, but KMR is “building a program down there in Waco”, by playing schools with a combined RPI under 260! Now that’s what I call a plan. Keep it up Kim, you’ll catch up with Jody some day doing it that way!
The Wild Cat fans are just excited they have a winner and good for them! I really like their starting five, I don’t think they have the athletes or the bench to go too far in March, however….sorry, just see it that way. Honestly, I’ve never thought Deb Patterson was a very good coach, either, but thank goodness she has a couple good assistants. A couple years ago I was wondering how much longer she would last, now she’s holding hands with Sherri as they walk across Lake OklaKan.
I think the CU fans have got to be the most humble of all, don’t ask me why. Mark pretty much tells you the way it is and calls a spade a spade and I like that frankly.
I’m sure I’ve pissed many of you off with some of the things I’ve said. It’s really all in fun, but I’m sure my lifespan on this board is going to be relatively short. I had to say this because I’ve been sitting back laughing for a couple years now. I find the psychology of all this just board just hysterical!
Don’t take life and this stuff, too seriously.
Good luck to everyone......I mean it! http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
[This message has been edited by Scrappy (edited 01-30-2003).]
DblT81
01-30-2003, 11:14 PM
How's Scooby and Shaggy these days?
elfdenmom
01-30-2003, 11:51 PM
Actually I thoroughly enjoyed your post. Glad you came out of the shadows long enough to fire your little darts. Its always interesting to view oneself in the Fun House Mirror.
swok34
01-30-2003, 11:56 PM
Hooray, hooray, hooray....... http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
we FINALLY got a Aggie fan on board http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif.....welcome, Scrappy.
Now would you be a fan of the Oklahoma State Aggies or the Texas A & M Aggies? We've been wanting a fan aboard of both those teams for some time now to discuss their team.
Well, if Scrapy is really an aggie, since he/she mentioned KMR building a program "down there in Waco", my guess is that Scrapy resides somewhere up north which would point to an OSU aggie, or somewhere north of Waco at least. JMHO, of course.
35TangoTango
01-31-2003, 12:50 AM
According to Scrappy's bio, he's from New Yawk. It kind of sounds like it, too. Folks up there in Husky country tend to see Coach Coale as a Geno protege.
I found his analysis really accurate, in a cartoon sort of way. I agree with Elf that its "always interesting to view oneself in the Fun House Mirror".
"I wonder if Sherri ever talked to Jody, 'one of her friends and mentors', about the fit that Jody threw when OU wanted to hire a HS coach to join the Big XII?" FYI, yes. Called and got advise from Jody on how to organize her office staff, etc.
DblT81
01-31-2003, 01:09 AM
If you've listened to any of the coaches media teleconferences on Tuesdays you may have heard KMR say "We're just trying to build a program down here". I think Scrappy Doo has listened to these or read the articles where Mulkey-Robertson is defending the Baylor nonconference schedule with that specific comment.
edited to add: That quote up there, please read it with a Louisiana point guard accent. Thank you.
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Bob_Ballew
01-31-2003, 09:48 AM
Welcome to HoopScoop Scrappy. I also enjoyed your comments. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif
ClassOf98
01-31-2003, 10:17 AM
Funny post, Scrappy. I'm a lurker too, but thought I should pop out of my hole for a minute and say howdy to everyone. I don't know as much about the intricacies of basketball as many of the folks here, so I keep quiet - just a fan who enjoys reading the board.
Carry on.
Go Buffs
01-31-2003, 10:45 AM
Hey Scrappy....Welcome! Thanks for the compliment on the CU fans. We are a pretty humble bunch, kind of like our team and coach!
Press
01-31-2003, 10:51 AM
<snicker> That was pretty funny, I'll have to admit.
Welcome to the board Scrapy and ClassOf98. Not all us "perfessers" at this seminar are learned either. I enjoy reading the opinions and ideas of any fan who cares about WCBB and especially BIG 12 WCBB. I hope you join in whenever the mood strikes you.
This is not really a seminar. Its a community of folks who care about WCBB. Trust me you are qualified to participate. I hope everyone out there jumps in whenever they want. I sure don't want to just heat my own thoughts rattle around in my head. I'd like to hear your thoughts and reactions too. Thanks for your interest in WCBB.
JohnHenry
01-31-2003, 11:27 AM
Why ya gots to hate on Jody, yo?
Nobody held a gun to her head. After the Title IX lawsuits came down in '92, she was presented with a golden opportunity to build new women's programs and create more opportunities at UT. With UT's resources and willingness to build the best, there isn't a women's AD anywhere who wouldn't have seized that opportunity and done whatever was necessary.
The whole Swoopes/"lesbian program" mess & the rise of Tech and other programs had already put a serious crimp in her recruiting pipeline (nothin' wrong with a little competition...), and every established program at UT had to help bite the bullet and get these new ones off the ground.
Yes, she took cuts in her bball budget. Yes, she let Mick Haley get away because AT THE TIME we simply couldn't pay him what he was worth AND get top-flight softball & soccer coaches. That was the fiscal reality.
And it was sound reasoning, in my view: she knew that bball and vball could bounce back in a few years and it was important to her that UT build the best possible foundations for the new sports. It was important to create a PERMANENT legacy of opportunity.
SHE WAS LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE, as she should have - there was more at stake than just basketball wins and losses.
Her bball team finished in the bottom half of the big 12 ONCE since it's inception, and that was an injury-plagued season.
And volleyball is most definitley on its' way back to the top.
(Nebraska is going DOWN next year! http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif )
Now look at women's athletics in the Big 12 (and around the country, for that matter). Across the board, UT has top-notch programs, teams, coaches, and facilities - does any Big 12 women's dept. even come close to the level of all-around success at Texas?
It's not just UT's resources, although that certainly makes a big difference. Other big schools with tons of money haven't done it. More will, and pretty soon, I hope.
It is largely due to the leadership and vision of people like Jody Conradt that young girls, in Texas and around the country, have so many opportunities now to pursue their dreams and play sports at a higher level. It has also been people like her who have put women's bball on the cusp of great success and financial viability.
And diss all you want - she can still coach. Get your licks in now because she won't be around much longer.
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ChipperF1
01-31-2003, 12:01 PM
"Nebraska is going DOWN next year!"
Bring it, son. The Big Red Block Party is waiting for you http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif
swok34
01-31-2003, 12:12 PM
I don't know as much about the intricacies of basketball as many of the folks here
I don't either...I JUST have a whole lot of opinions http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif and a whole lot of passion for Big XII women's basketball.
Welcome Classof98 to Hoopscoop.
JohnHenry
01-31-2003, 12:23 PM
Chipper -
not to get too off-topic, but doesn't Huskers vball lose like, 4 starters this year? (all All-Americans?)
Texas loses NO ONE, btw. And we nearly tripped ya'll up in Austin last year...
I wanted to second the notion that
1) women's sports across the board at Texas is second to none; they have world-class teams and athletes -- from many different sports -- everywhere you turn. In many key sports, they have set the standard nationally for years.
2) a major part of the credit for this goes, obviously, to the Athletic Director. And that, for a long while, was Jody Conradt. It's literally an unparalleled accomplishment.
BEAR SKIN
01-31-2003, 01:08 PM
Oh come on Scrappy.
This board is unique on the internet. I love to read other's opinions without the overt nastiness of other boards.
The love fest is almost totally superficial. Seems that only JohnHenry has yet to grasp the art of insulting the opponent while showering them with left handed complements.
When I have time, I enjoy covering the identity of a poster and deducing his/her between-the-lines puffing and/or put downs.
35TangoTango
01-31-2003, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by JohnHenry:
That was the fiscal reality.
Fiscal reality? Texas? LOL! http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/rolleyes.gif
And diss all you want - she can still coach.
Yes, she can; and Texas should give a big vote of thanks to Bill Fennelly and Sherri Coale for forcing her out of a well-earned and comfortable retirement!
See, Scrappy, we can take the gloves off when we want to! Actually, J. H. is about as new as you are!
BenEClone
01-31-2003, 01:53 PM
It IS remarkably civil on this board. I conclude it is the WBB fan effect because the same can't be said of internet exchanges between MBB and football fans especially of the in-state rivalries. I've never heard the "Geno prodigy" label; is that what she tells recruits?
Originally posted by soonerman:
According to Scrappy's bio, he's from New Yawk.
The profile may say New York, but I sense this topic originated from somewhere (sing with me, now) "Deep in the heart of Texas".
JohnHenry
01-31-2003, 02:17 PM
Perhaps you have to be a little closer to the situation to understand, soonerman. It was fiscal reality - the University was being court-ordered to initiate more sports programs that were guaranteed TO LOSE money. Notice how most other schools have had a VERY difficult time finding the money to maintain top-20 vball, soccer, & softball programs. The same was true here, just to a lesser degree than at other universities.
Look at Tenn and UConn. Dominant in basketball - How are their vball, soccer, swimming, softball and track programs? Michigan? Ohio St.? UCLA?
Texas Des have more resources than most schools, which is one reason why they were able to do it without too much of a drop-off. But Haley's departure was basically a trade off. His successor took the team from Big 12 champs to its' first losing season ever in about 4 years.
Once all the new programs were in place and Jody's mission accomplished, she stepped down as AD and returned to her first love, with the plan to rejuvenate the program and stockpile some talent for a worthy successor. She was also instrumental in bringing Jerritt Elliot in to return the vball team to the nation's elite (currently in progress).
She may hang on another year or two, but if she manages a Final Four appearance this year, don't be surprised to see her hang it up soon thereafter.
ChipperF1
01-31-2003, 02:34 PM
"we nearly tripped ya'll up in Austin last year...
John Boy, the Shorthorns nearly trip us up every year.
And they fall short more often than not.
Even with our four starters, including two who I see donning USA uniforms in 2004, there is a fine group of understudies who have played significant minutes in the last two years.
This isn't like Nebraska football, baby. The next wave will step into the breach, dear friend.
If Texas wants our crown, they better pack a lunch and bring six enemies. You shouldn't subject your friends to such torture. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif
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swok34
01-31-2003, 02:36 PM
She may hang on another year or two, but if she manages a Final Four appearance this year, don't be surprised to see her hang it up soon thereafter
I think we were discussing this last year....who would take over the reins? I thought it might be Karen Aston, who do you think JohnHenry?
ChipperF1
01-31-2003, 02:39 PM
"Look at Tenn and UConn. Dominant in basketball - How are their vball, soccer, swimming, softball and track programs? Michigan? Ohio St.? UCLA?
I notice you didn't put Stanford in that group? http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif
Texas Longhorn athletics is excellent and that rising burnt Orange tide is lifting every boat.
But even Texas Fight bows to the Borg.
35TangoTango
01-31-2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by BenEClone:
I've never heard the "Geno prodigy" label; is that what she tells recruits?
Geno met Sherri when he recruited Stacey Hansmeyer from Sherri's Norman High team. He apparently was impressed with her and made a strong recommendation to OU to hire her ("she's not a high school coach; she's a college coach in a high school job"). In addition, Hansmeyer, who was a crowd favorite at UConn, is back as an assistant coach at OU.
Actually she made a lot of Division I contacts as they came to recruit her Norman High players: KMR (then an assistant at La Tech) and Tara Vanderveer among others.
UConn fans make more of the "Geno protege" thing than we do; and they will probably continue to feel that way until some day we finally whip their butts.
I have heard Sherri credit several people for help; Geno for helping get her the job; Jody, who she called for advise on how to organize an office and staff; Marsha, as an example of how to run a class program.
Her coaching style is pretty much her own, though.
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JohnHenry
01-31-2003, 03:20 PM
Alrighty, there Chipper -
our vball team wasn't even close in 2000 or '01. Last year we knocked on the door...we might just skip beating on it this year and go ahead and kick the SOB in, as it were. Of course Mizzou and the Aggies may have something to say about it as well. Big 12 volleyball will soon be as crazy as bball...
Elliot pulled a #1 recruiting class this year and there is a lot of talent already on board. This ain't Jim Moore you're whoopin' on now (insert UT-mocking, "recruiting titles" heckling here).
Re: Jody's successor
They're keeping a pretty tight lid on that one at Belmont. My guess is Jody will forego any insistence on hand-picking and let Dodds go after the best; though JC will reportedly insist that it be a woman.
I imagine darn near any coach not named Auriemma/Summitt/Goestenkors/Vandeveer would just about jump at the opportunity, that whole "following a legend" curse notwithstanding. Some are clamoring for the homer pick: taking Kamie Etheridge from KSU - but she hasn't been a head coach yet and I think it's all just sentimentalist talk.
A couple of folks i've talked to think they may try to bring home Nell Fortner, but I don't know why she would leave the pro ranks now. The money might do it, I guess, and the idea of succeeding her mentor as well. Some also have suggested stealing Coale http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif before she gets too comfy in Norman, but I doubt that would sit well with the alumni. Others names mentioned have been Orlando asst. Valerie Still, Linda Sharp, Cynthia Cooper, Chris Gobrecht of USC, and of course, Aston.
Men's names like Fennelly and New Mexico's Don Flanagan have come up.
Who knows? It could be none of those. Like I said, they're playing it close to their vest, since obviously JC is still firmly in control and hasn't announced anything.
DblT81
01-31-2003, 03:38 PM
Oh yes! yes! yes! PLEASE Mr. Dodds PLEASE hire Chris Gobrecht of USC. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
JohnHenry
01-31-2003, 03:41 PM
Yeah, somebody around Belmont knows her or something. She certainly isn't on my short list.
DblT81
01-31-2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Bevo:
The profile may say New York, but I sense this topic originated from somewhere (sing with me, now) "Deep in the heart of Texas".
Bevo and I don't always agree but, after all we are both Texans, and I also sense Scrappy may be a Texan.
Originally posted by JohnHenry:
A couple of folks i've talked to think they may try to bring home Nell Fortner, but I don't know why she would leave the pro ranks now. The money might do it, I guess, and the idea of succeeding her mentor as well. Some also have suggested stealing Coale http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif before she gets too comfy in Norman, but I doubt that would sit well with the alumni. Others names mentioned have been Orlando asst. Valerie Still, Linda Sharp, Cynthia Cooper, Chris Gobrecht of USC, and of course, Aston.
Men's names like Fennelly and New Mexico's Don Flanagan have come up.
It's pretty uncommon for coaches to leave their school for a conference rival. That plus the fact that it would be essentially a move sideways means it's very unlikely that either Coale or Fennelly would take the job. Of course, us ISU fans like to think Fennelly wouldn't ever take a job anywhere else. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif He has repeatedly said he'll be at ISU "as long as they want me to stay", although for a while it appeared Ohio State might have a shot at snatching him before they lured Foster from Vandy. I'm guessing Coale is the same way at Oklahoma, especially since they were the school that took a leap of faith when they hired her. As long as Fennelly and Coale are paid a competitive salary, I doubt either will leave.
However, I wouldn't be all that surprised to see a WNBA coach drop back down. The pay and prestige are not really all that different, and I'd suspect most people would rather coach college students than professionals.
TXSNOS
01-31-2003, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by DblT81:
Oh yes! yes! yes! PLEASE Mr. Dodds PLEASE hire Chris Gobrecht of USC. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
Oh no! no! no! PLEASE Mr. Dodds PLEASE do NOT hire Chris Gobrecht of USC.
TXs N Os
TXSNOS
01-31-2003, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by Scrappy:
I have another question for UT fans, the sourpuss coach, Harston, what’s her problem? She always looks so putout and *****y. Is she responsible for anything? I can’t imagine that type of attitude would be attribute to any program.
I agree that Harston is very competitive and looks pretty intense during games. But in after-game meetings with fans and during practice, let me tell you, she's a scream. She has a wonderful sense of humor that one wouldn't sense just from watching her on the bench during games.
TXs N Os
Originally posted by JohnHenry:
Re: Jody's successor - Some are clamoring for the homer pick: taking Kamie Etheridge from KSU - but she hasn't been a head coach yet and I think it's all just sentimentalist talk.
I think you are on the right track here JohnHenry. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif I'd sure recommend that everyone stay away from Kamie. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif
Seriously I have been impressed with Flanagan and I think it would be fun to see what Coach Burnette ex. of SMS would do with your facilities and resources.
ChipperF1
01-31-2003, 04:34 PM
Texas Head Coach Cheryl Burnett? Hmm...I'd like to see that. She's awesome, believes in defense and has moxie and fire. Just like Proud Jody.
Flanagan wouldn't be bad either.
Although I hear Angela Beck is available http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif
HuskerFan86
01-31-2003, 06:17 PM
Hmmm, I wonder why??
JohnHenry
01-31-2003, 07:40 PM
mred- "sideways move", eh? You Okies are alright... http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
Burnette is certainly high on my list, and Fortner is a great coach with a proven record. I sort of thought the WNBA head coaches had kind of an unspoken agreement not to voluntarily leave pro jobs for college ranks until the league was a little more solvent - y'know, lest people think that they're 'bailing' on a 'failed' enterprise, etc. But I don't know that for sure, obviously.
BTW - Gobrecht is just the kind of bone-headed hire Dodds would have made, like, 10 or 20 years ago...so I would hope that Jody actually does have plenty to say about it when the time comes. It would seem that Dodds learned his lesson after McWilliams/Weltlich/Mackovic, etc., you never know...
Other coaches I like:
June Daugherty @ Wash. - done pretty well in an area where the recruiting isn't all that great
Susan Walvius @ S. Carolina - nice upswing @ USC since she arrived
McGraw @ N. Dame - no way we'd get her, and her name is Muffet, but damn good coach.
Wes Moore @ Tenn-Chattanooga - read good things about him; he's won some championships in short order; seems like our kind of coach, but he's, well, a man...
Lee Ann Riley @ SFA - good defense!
Hell, I can see Kamie doing a pretty good job here; she'd no doubt have the alumni's support and that means a lot; she knows Texas high school coaches, and she knows the big 12. My sense at this point is that Aston may actually be apprenticing for the job, but i'd like to think UT will actually spend the money to bring a proven winner; someone youngish would be nice - this should be a career gig for someone, so I don't think Fortner is really the beat fit in that regard.
Cooper - I don't know; definitely has name prestige and is a hero to many young players; she didn't do too well in Phoenix but maybe it wasn't the right situation for her. Busy with the Title IX commission right now.
Somebody mentioned Fran Harris - another alum, hasn't coached anywhere but is supposedly a great motivator and teacher. Lookin' good, too, if I do say so myself:
http://www.imdiversity.com/ArticleImages/african/franharris.jpg
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DblT81
01-31-2003, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by soonerman:
Fiscal reality? Texas?
HoopScoop, Can I nominate this for the HoopScoop Hall of Fame?
Thanks for making my day Soonerman. I had to come back and say something about this one because I can't stop http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif.
Press
01-31-2003, 08:42 PM
Lord, I hope Fran Harris is a better coach than she is a TV commentator.
And I'll have to agree that the "fiscal reality" explanation by JohnHenry made me LMAO! THAT one got me rolling and I thought only Aggies could manage to justify EVERYTHING!
<We need a LOL icon!>
35TangoTango
01-31-2003, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by JohnHenry:
mred- "sideways move", eh? You Okies are alright...
Well, J.H., mred's not an Okie, but I agree with you that OU to Texas would not be a sideways move but a down one!
OU just came off of three conference championships and a Final Four. The last time Texas won so much as conference title was somewhere back in the old SWC - the same year that Dick Halterman's OSU team won the Big 8, in fact. And OU just moved into the best facilities in WBB!
Hey, Scrappy, see what you started?
JohnHenry
01-31-2003, 11:35 PM
Not sure if I read you guys correctly here -
The idea that Texas didn't have the money to keep a Mick Haley in '96 is laughable? Could, say, OU afford him now? If so, why don't they go get him? We achieve our level of success because of our resources, yet we're not succeeding anymore? Clarify, please.
Yes, just like most athletic departments in the aftermath of the Title IX suits, UT had to do some fancy footwork to comply. They were, due to JC's leadership, determined to do it to the fullest extent possible, which meant facilities, coaches, & staffing - and UT does have a deep alumni base to draw on, but we're talking millions of dollars here - donors can pay for facilities pretty much on their own, but rules on salaries are a little different. None of this is rocket science, btw. Like I said, you don't see too many other schools that have been able to do it, but that doesn't mean it was easy for Texas.
There's a fair chance that UT will set a new market standard for women's bball coaches with JC's successor. I'm hoping it's something Dodds spares no expense for, but he's screwed the pooch before (McWilliams/Mackovic, Bob Weltlich...). Jim Moore wasn't a bad vball coach, but he couldn't recruit.
And hey, Coale is a helluva coach, but please don't confuse OU's 3-year run with a tradition. We were pulling 10k+ to the Drum and outdrawing our men's team when Barry Switzer was running loose up in Norman and 'women's basketball' was still a drinking game in Oklahoma. And haven't we won the last 2 meetings, sooners? I'm lookin' forward to a third in March.
And we'll soon have the finest basketball facility in the COUNTRY (would you expect anything less from those nauseating, filthy rich pigs at UT?) http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif
Check it out: http://www.texassports.com/mainpages/wbb_pages/2002_03/001/wbb_092702_20.html
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swok34
02-01-2003, 12:27 AM
mred- "sideways move", eh? You Okies are alright
Don't you live in Wisconsin now, Mred.....transplanted from the great state of Iowa?
Originally posted by swok34:
mred- "sideways move", eh? You Okies are alright
Don't you live in Wisconsin now, Mred.....transplanted from the great state of Iowa?
Right on both counts. I believe JohnHenry confused me for an OU fan (ew.... http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif )
JohnHenry
02-01-2003, 12:55 AM
My mistake. Surely you can understand... http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
Scrappy
02-01-2003, 01:39 AM
Thanks to some of you for not taking what I said as a total negative and allow me to come back on from time to time to chat. I see that this turned out to be another freaking UT flag raising ceremony by JohnHenry. Where the hell did you come from, dude? Dang, I can tolerate a little, but you’ve overdone me on the subject and can’t even tolerate readying your last two novels explaining all that nonsense.
That UT fiscal issues comment is the biggest crock of crap I’ve heard since the last time I saw a Mack Brown press conference. I’m sorry I brought it up, so I’m officially dropping the subject. We’re all clear that UT has superior women’s programs and Jody is responsible for all of them! OK? And for the record, on the coaching situation, Nell Fortner is not the coach I would chose and I don’t think she’s smart enough to be the head coach at UT, but that’s a whole other topic for the off season….not today.
For those of you questioning my place of residence, I grew up in Texas but now live in New York. I spend a lot of time in Texas keep close tabs on the Big XII. I’ve worked at both UT and A&M, but I can’t say that I have loyalty to either. Anyway, just thought I’d clear that up since some of you think I’m blowing smoke and I’m certainly not and Aggie.
Everyone have a great weekend and good luck on your upcoming games. I’ll be watching all I can.
[This message has been edited by Scrappy (edited 01-31-2003).]
JohnHenry
02-01-2003, 02:31 AM
Think what you like, Scrappy. Just don't go away mad like that. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
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