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elfdenmom

01-11-2003, 06:44 PM

Baylor played a heck of a game in a tough environment! Dionne Brown had a huge game. I was sick when she left because she has always been one of my favorite players. A few idiots persisted in booing her every time she got on the floor. Guess they were too stupid to realize that it only made her more determined and inspired.

I was proud of our girls for how they hung in there and pulled it out. It was an ugly, emotional game. LaToya was magnificent! Erin was wonderful and played for 40 minutes. Natalie was a rock of calm in all the madness. I saw only two uncontested shots the whole afternoon. Both teams played great defense.

Young needs to learn self discipline. The foul happened right in front of me and it WAS a foul. She must have said something bad because the technical followed before you could blink. The foul itself was understandable because both teams were playing flat out, but the technical may have cost them the game. Fortunately Nat and LaToya knocked down the free throws.

One mystery is solved, though... those bears in the woods are for real.

DblT81

01-11-2003, 06:49 PM

Well, today was the big test for Baylor. They made a high grade. I think I will throw out the preseason creampuff schedule as a negative against this team. Baylor is pretty good for such a young team. I can see Baylor finishing in the top 4 in the conference.

RaiderPower1

01-11-2003, 07:40 PM

I'll be the first to admit that this Baylor team is no slouch over. They played focused (except for a few mistakes including Young's technical) and continued to stay with their game plan. With Plenette Pierson benched for foul trouble, Latoya Davis really stepped it up on both ends scoring 15, changing opponents' shots, and stepping in the passing lanes. Both teams' post play was sickening at times to watch because they were just trading blow for blow. Now that Baylor has seen a decent team, I have no doubt that they can come out every game and play like this (although it seems that every team always plays Tech to the best they can).

Young didn't impress me, but Blackmon and Brown will be a force in the paint and they'll beat a lot of teams this year. I predict now that they'll be 3rd or 4th depending on what Texas does.

One more thing, I'm not going to go on and on about it, but Coach Mulkey-Robertson's impact on the game's officials needs to be controlled. I realize that some calls may be bad, but I don't feel it is fair to keep yelling at the refs and stomping to center court everytime a call against her team is made. She almost forgot to go shake Coach Sharp's hand at the end of the game cause she was going to go talk to one of the refs. KMR though, is a great coach and should keep focus on her team and not worry about officiating. She had made a lot out of this team from what was nothing 3 years ago.

Go Tech!!

Bball Girl

01-11-2003, 07:50 PM

I thought Whittaker for BU did a terrific job...she handled the ball well, made some key buckets and did a good job of running the offense. Brown has always had a silky smooth shot and she was an impact player for BU today.

Like everyone, I can't say enough about Davis...she also added some key steals when she intercepted two Baylor passes in a row. She brought so much energy and fire into the game....she's a keeper. As is Grant...she kept her composure and ran the offense.

doubleT

01-11-2003, 07:52 PM

agreed RP...KMR needs to tone it down a little...I'm surprised she didn't have a T called on her. It seemed everytime I looked at her she was standing outside of her box...at times on the court. She would be 2 steps out on the court while the action was goin on...don't quite understand why she was allowed to do so.

YCN

01-11-2003, 08:01 PM

Wasn't it KMR that got the ejection last year? And wasn't it KMR that did the controversial victory "war-dance" last year?

(Coach, it is time to ease off a bit. There's a reason why coaches don't have the longest life spans - it's called heart attacks.)

Bevo

01-11-2003, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by RaiderPower1:
One more thing, I'm not going to go on and on about it, but Coach Mulkey-Robertson's impact on the game's officials needs to be controlled. I realize that some calls may be bad, but I don't feel it is fair to keep yelling at the refs and stomping to center court everytime a call against her team is made. She almost forgot to go shake Coach Sharp's hand at the end of the game cause she was going to go talk to one of the refs. KMR though, is a great coach and should keep focus on her team and not worry about officiating. She had made a lot out of this team from what was nothing 3 years ago.

RP, you and I don't agree on much http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif, but this is one area in which we do. Sounds like KMR is up to her old tricks. In the UT/Baylor game in Austin last year, I watched her literally storm down to the baseline after an out of bounds call went against the Bears and argued with the official (with much animation). The official changed the call and gave the ball to Baylor. I have no idea why she doesn't get called for more technicals. It's one thing to be expressive and into the game, but she carries it a step too far, IMO.

Oops, had to edit "Go Tech" out of my post! http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/tongue.gif

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RaiderPower1

01-12-2003, 01:14 AM

Very nice Bevo! http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif My problem with KMR is that she appears so intimidating to the officials and I don't think a coach should be allowed to sway the refs in that manner. She should focus on coaching her team so that the ref never has to make that decision. Imagine if she focused that time on "teaching" her players. She would be one hell of a coach even more than she is now!

35TangoTango

01-12-2003, 02:20 AM

Isn't there a certain amount of irony here, with the school where Bobby Knight coaches complaining about a coach trying to intimidate the officials?

GrantFanTT

01-12-2003, 02:46 AM

I think it is great that a Freshman for Tech Led the way in scoring, and a Tech trasfer led the way in scoring for baylor. It says alot of Tech http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif! The neatest thing I saw today had to be when Davis Stepped up and played NOTHING like a Freshman. I LOVE her Hustle and Athleticism. Pierson is going to be a big loss next year, but I think we have found her replacement that may carry them to the Final four! The team they have now can only get better, and more mature, so by next year who knows how Much they're going to dominate!

Bob_Ballew

01-12-2003, 03:06 AM

I just got home from Lubbock and I must say that the atmosphere in Lubbock great. The Lady Raiders and fans are to be commended on the job that they do. It was good to see the old team introduced at halftime.

Great tough game. The officiating left a lot to be desired. But it was bad for both teams overall. Sophia got the technical I believe for rolling on the floor after the foul was called. Whether she threw herself to the floor or if she fell, I certainly don't know. But she apparently did not say anything to draw the technical. It was a crucial 4 point swing in the contest. The game was a 3 to 5 point game for the most part and that is how it should have finished. The 14 point spread does not indicate how close this game actually was. Latoya Davis was the difference in the game with her rebounding and steals. Erin Grant did a very good job of running the offense and there were some plays that were executed to perfection. I thought Natalie Ritchie was also important in the win with her smooth shooting.

I can not see how anybody would not be impressed with Sophia Young. She can out jump anybody in the league. This young lady will only get better. For her to start as a freshman in the hostile environment of USA, she did well. It was not her best game of the season. Sitting behind the bench at the floor level, I was in awe of one of her rebounds where she was well above the rim. What can you say about Dionne Brown. She played extremely well for her first game in Lubbock as a Lady Bear. I expect her to get better as the season progresses. Stephanie Blackmon did not put up the numbers that I had hoped for, but she will also get better and produce big numbers for the team. I am glad to see some of you have second thoughts about the Bears and where they may finish in the conference race.

On to Austin and another hostile environment.

Sic 'Em http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/bu.gif

P.S. (Coach Kim does not need to tone anything down. She does an excellent job and working the refs is all part of the job!)

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DBLTFarmer

01-12-2003, 03:49 AM

Soonerman,

I can see where you might think the statement you made is correct but have you watched Knight coach since he has been at Tech. He has toned it down a bit. In fact, in a year and a half of coaching at TT he has received only one technical foul and that was tonight at K-State. Tonights T may have been more to fire up the team than to get onto the officials.

KMR is a good coach. It just seems to me that she needs to get herself under control more in a game. I really believe that she loses credibility with the officials during the game because she contests so many calls.

I think Young must have said something or was very blatant in her actions in todays game. The official called the technical foul too quickly after the foul was called to be anything else. With the physical nature of today's game I really think the official wouldnt have called a T unless it was something blatant.

two cents

01-12-2003, 04:25 AM

Press:
LaToya had 15 points and 15 rebounds and was the difference in this tight game. I've always loved her fire and hustle and she showed it today.
Without LaToya, we don't win this game. Looks like she is ready to follow in a long line of tough-minded, "make it happen somehow" Lady Raiders.

elfdenmom:
Natalie was a rock of calm in all the madness.
I am glad she has worked so hard on her defense. We need her offensive production and composure on the court.

raiderpower1:
Both teams' post play was sickening at times to watch because they were just trading blow for blow.
No kidding! Those lame shooting percentages weren't the result of the teams jacking up a bunch of wild threes. Only 8 three point attempts were taken by both teams combined. The field goal percentages for the frontline players were dismal (except for Davis 6/10). Baylor: 11 for 41. Tech: 11 for 32. There was some vicious interior defense played by both teams. And I think both teams need to make some adjustments in their offense.

Bball Girl:
I thought Whittaker for BU did a terrific job
So did I. No fear in that kid!

Zo3157:
The 14 point spread does not indicate how close this game actually was.
That's exactly what I was thinking as the game was winding down. Point spreads can be very deceptive.

DBLTFarmer:
With the physical nature of today's game I really think the official wouldnt have called a T unless it was something blatant.
I have to agree with that. The call was instantaneous. However, I suspect the official may have been confused about which player was responsible. The action was fast and furious. He may have heard something and thought it was Sophia when it was somebody else.

Originally posted by Bevo:
Oops, had to edit "Go Tech" out of my post! http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/tongue.gif

That got me to laughin', Bevo.

Can't believe Tech only had 14 turnovers. It seemed like a lot more. Maybe that was because of some of the back and forth "steals" that didn't ultimately result in a change of possession.

What a defensive slugfest. I don't want to call this game ugly, because each team played with such tremendous heart. Obviously, Baylor came to Lubbock with the notion that they would equal or surpass last year's conference finish. They gave every possible ounce of effort toward that end. They had a good game plan. They stuck to it. These young players are well-instructed. Baylor matches up pretty well with Tech. The two teams show a similar intent to work the game inside-out. Today (yesterday) they both defended against that approach.

TXSNOS

01-12-2003, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by RaiderPower1:
Very nice Bevo! http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif My problem with KMR is that she appears so intimidating to the officials and I don't think a coach should be allowed to sway the refs in that manner. She should focus on coaching her team so that the ref never has to make that decision. Imagine if she focused that time on "teaching" her players. She would be one hell of a coach even more than she is now!

I know a lot of people will probably disagree with this, but I don't think that coaches should be allowed to talk to the refs at all. Let the refs call the game, have an independent review of their performance, and if they turn out not to be any good, fire them and get someone who is.

TXs N Os

AusTech

01-12-2003, 12:31 PM

I agree with you on that. NOBODY should be able to talk to the refs at all. It has set a bad example for the players who now all feel obligated to jaw at them after every call and doesn't contribute to good sportsmanship at all. KMR is a great coach, but I do not like some of the things she has done and said. That goes with being a young coach in a league of HOF coaches. She almost needs to be that fiery to get attention for herself and the program. From the look of the new players, I'd say it is working http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif

ChipperF1

01-12-2003, 12:43 PM

"but I don't think that coaches should be allowed to talk to the refs at all. Let the refs call the game.

Being a high school official, I disagree. A coach should be able to talk to me. Its part of the game.

As long as the coach is being respectful. Not using foul language and acting violently or belligerently, sure they can talk and lobby all they want. The first rule I was taught by my mentor, who officiates in the Big 12 now, is to "clear the mechanism and call the game. Block everything else out by the players, the play and the game."

Kim Mulkey-Robertson does take some things to extremes at times, and an official has a remedy for that. Its called a Technical Foul T her up a few times and she will back off.

Coaches at all levels would be wise to follow what my mama always told me.

You catch more flies with honey, than with vinegar.

TXSNOS

01-12-2003, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by ChipperF1:
Coaches at all levels would be wise to follow what my mama always told me.

You catch more flies with honey, than with vinegar.

That's a really good illustration of my concern. I don't care how nice they are about it, coaches IMHO should not be allowed to try to influence how refs call a game.

TXs N Os

35TangoTango

01-12-2003, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by TXSNOS:
I don't care how nice they are about it, coaches IMHO should not be allowed to try to influence how refs call a game.

But don't all of us as fans do exactly the same thing? Are you telling me that all those "boos" on perceived bad calls are not efforts to influence how refs call a game? So you are saying that coaches should have less freedom in communicating with refs than fans do?

We're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist! There is already a perfectly good mechanism for controlling coaches behavior; it's called a technical foul and it's exercised by the person who should be in control - the ref! Much better than some "one size fits all" rule.

Chipper had the right call on this!

As for KMR, it should be obvious to one and all that she wears her heart on her sleeve for all to see. It sometimes leads her into behavior that might be less than dignified, but it is also obvious that her team and her school have no doubts about how much she cares; and all that emotion gets transfered to her players. I for one find it hard to reject that in favor of more "Borg-like" behavioral standards.

AusTech

01-12-2003, 04:16 PM

I think that the players should keep their mouths shut, but be allowed to show a little dissapointment with a call. Coaches should be able to discuss calls and trends in the game, but I don't think the extra things that go on are necessary. Explain to me why a coach feels the need to scream at me. You are LESS not MORE likely to get my next call.

TXSNOS

01-12-2003, 04:18 PM

But don't all of us as fans do exactly the same thing? Are you telling me that all those "boos" on perceived bad calls are not efforts to influence how refs call a game? So you are saying that coaches should have less freedom in communicating with refs than fans do?

Yes. Coaches should coach the players, not the refs.

We're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist! There is already a perfectly good mechanism for controlling coaches behavior; it's called a technical foul and it's exercised by the person who should be in control - the ref! Much better than some "one size fits all" rule.

The issue with me is not bad behavior by the coach or the players. The issue is impartiality. Is a coach going to get a technical foul for supplying "honey"? Should a team get a call because a coach knows how to supply "honey"? I don't think so.

TXs N Os

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Bob_Ballew

01-12-2003, 05:30 PM

KMR is a great coach. I do not consider her to be a rookie just because she has only been a head coach for three years. KMR has been around the block awhile. She is a tremendous "teacher". I believe that is her greatest asset. In my opinion, teaching the ladies to be their very best is the way to create a winning program. Some of you must be jealous because she is so animated at times and your coach is simply a dull stick-in-the-mud. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/wink.gif She means no disrespect to any player, fan, team, opposing coach or official. Officials do make mistakes! There is not a one of you out there that hasn't complained about officiating and KMR is no different. Give her a break, that is part of the game. I agree with Chipper that if the official doesn't want to listen to her, use the T. She is a D-1 coach and we all are not. She must be doing something right. I just hate to see opposing fans rag on her. I could whine and complain about the other coaches in the league or a player, but it does not accomplish anything. All I want is "consistency" from the officials. Tech and Baylor both got screwed over yesterday by the officials at different times. Jessika Stratton got bulldozed by No. 41 away from the ball and there was no call. Right after that, a Baylor player was hit for a foul on some incidental contact. Tech experienced the same crappy calls as well. Just give me a little consistency.

DBLTFarmer

01-12-2003, 06:12 PM

This is certainly an interesting conversation about coaching and "working the officials." At all levels of play, I see coaches trying to work the officials. More often than not its the team with the more aggressive style of play where the coach seems to work the official the most.

In two of Techs more recent games, Rutgers and Baylor coaches both worked the officials during the entire game. The two coaches and fans made the same complaints after the game. Why did Tech shoot so many more free throws than our team. The easy way out is to blame the officials and say they were biased for Tech. The other way is to see the agressive nature of the teams play and expect to the opponent to go to the foul line more often than your team.

Historically, Tech has always gone to the line more than there opponents. I would say this has occurred 75% of the time over the last 10 years. The difference is in the style of play. Tech plays an agressive man to man defense. However, It is one that lends itself to less fouls. For example, when Tech would get a rebound against Baylor or Rutgers, their players were swatting at the ball on every opportunity. When Baylor or Rutgers got a rebound, Tech rarely did this. When Tech threw the ball into the post against both teams there would be double and triple teams. They would be swatting at the ball and sometimes get the foul called. When Tech doubles in the post, the defensive post player rarely swats at the ball, if anyone does go for the steal in the post its a guard.

Im not trying to say either style is any better than the other. What I am saying is that one style leads to more fouls than the other. When the Coach of an agressive type defense is on the sidelines contesting every call she is working the refs to get more calls that are more suited to her teams style of play.

Sometimes this works and sometimes it doesnt. Just like a team that shoots a lot of 3's, You live by the three and die by the three.

35TangoTango

01-12-2003, 06:41 PM

Farmer, I have to disagree with a lot of things you've said here:
Originally posted by DBLTFarmer:
More often than not its the team with the more aggressive style of play where the coach seems to work the official the most.

I can't buy that obersvation at all, unless you can back it up with statistics. The team with the more agressive style of play wants fewer calls, not more.

Tech plays an agressive man to man defense. However, It is one that lends itself to less fouls.

That's an oxymoron, and a self-serving one at that.

When the Coach of an agressive type defense is on the sidelines contesting every call she is working the refs to get more calls that are more suited to her teams style of play.

Neither you nor I know the motives of any coach, but reason and logic say that the last thing the coach of an agressive defense wants is more calls of any type.

Quite frankly, I see this whole thread as a Tech put-down of KMR because she comes across on the sidelines as far more passionate than Coach Sharp.

DBLTFarmer

01-12-2003, 07:51 PM

Soonerman,

This is no put-down of KMR. She is a good coach that obviously is well liked by her fans and players. She has been successful at Baylor and that is due in large part to her defense.

What I am saying is that past experience has shown to me that coaches with the more aggressive style of play work the officials and contest calls. They want fewer calls so they complain about calls being made hoping to get the officials to make less calls. They are working to get less calls made.

No, I cant base it on statistics but I will say this, Baylor and Oklahoma were two of the teams that led the conference in steals last season. Do these two teams not have two of the more animated coaches in the conference.

You say it is an oxymoron that Tech plays a man to man defense that lends itself to less fouls. Read my post again and you will see some reasons that is so. Also, look at the defensive statistics of the nation and the big 12. Is Tech not in the top tier in lowest shooting percentage allowed?? Tech plays good position defense and plays the passing lanes well. They are aggressive in these areas and do get fouls called on them. One thing that Tech has always done well, is Tech teams shoot more one and one foul shots than their opponents.

Frankly, I like a fiery coach on the sideline. I think it tends to get the players more motivated. However, what I dont like is the players contesting every call. If I were to single out a coach that is fiery yet gets her players motivated without contesting calls its Sherri Coale. She did and excellent job last year of keeping her players motivated while keeping them playing smart.

As far as Coach Sharp, I wish she would get a little more emotional on the sidelines.

One final question, how many coaches have been thrown out of Big 12 games??

TXSNOS

01-12-2003, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by DBLTFarmer:
As far as Coach Sharp, I wish she would get a little more emotional on the sidelines.

One time on TV I heard her say "Holy Smokes!" in response to a really bad call.

I'd rather not conjecture what other coaches might have said in the same situation. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif

TXs N Os

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swok34

01-12-2003, 09:49 PM

I know Dick Halterman got tossed out of at least 2 games....

I prefer a coach that does talk to the officials, though if they start contesting EVERY call, that's a bit much. I really like the bunch of coaches we have in the Big XII. What I really detest is a coach that screams at players across the court, screams at players on the bench. And I really doubt I could ever be a fan of a team whose coach exhibits that behavior. By screaming, I mean berating a player in public.

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techlrfanatic

01-12-2003, 10:11 PM

Lets see one hand we have a very good young coach who gripes about every call in a game and on the other we have a Hall Of Fame coach who tries to act in a dignified manner( but will contest a call if needed). I think sonnerman has all of us Tech fans figured out, we are jealous of Baylor and their Passionate appearing coach. As far as the rest of the discussion, I agee with those who say let the coach say what they want, its the refs job to keep it under control. As far as being consistant in calling fouls, I've yet to see a college game where their wern't inconsistancies, even refs in the same game call things differently when they are in different positions on the court. I've seen one ref call a touch foul on one end of the court under the basket and on the other end another ref lets them get away with murder when he/she is positoned on the baseline. It's the players responsibilty to adjust during the game. The difference yesterday was Baylors post's were doubling and triple teaming whenever our posts touched the ball. That means when our player made a move towards the basket with 2 or 3 players hanging all over them the chances go up for a foul call. Our posts on the other hand played straight up for the most part, which led to some nice baskets for Brown, thus less chance for fouls. I've yet to see the rule that states that the same amount of fouls should be called on both teams.
Personally I don't care what KMR does on the sidelines, but if you are going to gripe & moan over every call don't be surprised when the refs have a short fuse with your players.

swok34-I couldn't agree more, I follow one of the High School teams around Lubbock and in going to the games I've noticed some of the HS coaches acting the way you describe, If I had a daughter playing I would not tolerate that kind of behavior. Our coach has been around for about 20 years so we've been blessed with not having to put up that crap.

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Bob_Ballew

01-12-2003, 10:55 PM

Double and triple teaming post players has been around as long as I can remember. The Tech players hung on the Baylor post players just as much as the Baylor players hung on the Tech players. Watch the film if you don't believe this! To say that Baylor was the only team swatting at the ball is a case of denial. The game was fun and the teams were very evenly matched and I respect the defensive efforts that both teams made. There are some teriffic players on both squads. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif

DBLTFarmer

01-12-2003, 11:01 PM

Zo, I didnt say Tech didnt swat at balls. Just not to the extent that Baylor did it. Baylor may not do that all the time. They may have done it to slow Tech's transition game. BTW, it worked. Baylor did an excellent job of slowing Tech's tansition game.

Press

01-13-2003, 01:07 AM

Originally posted by TXSNOS:
One time on TV I heard her say "Holy Smokes!" in response to a really bad call.

I'd rather not conjecture what other coaches might have said in the same situation. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif

TXs N Os

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"Gosh-a-might, Ref!", is my favorite from her and the folded arms stare down.

techlrfanatic

01-13-2003, 01:37 AM

ZO, your right, double & triple teaming has been around forever and so has refs calling fouls on people hacking at the ball when they are doing the double & triple teaming. 16 of Baylor's 22 fouls were called on post players or wing players that were falling back to double or triple team our posts. 10 of our 13 fouls were called on our post or wing players so you are correct, we were swatting at the ball also and got called for it. The difference is we would have one player swatting and Baylor would have two or three. It dosen't take a math major to figure out you will probably get more fouls called that way. Actually the way we shoot free throws I would probably play us this way also.

elfdenmom

01-13-2003, 12:28 PM

I have seen Marsha stamp her foot and say Dad-Gum-It to a couple of players, but that was in practice.

swok34

01-13-2003, 12:32 PM

I have seen Sherri Coale give an "evil" eye to some of her players and to the ref's, also......

Lots of ways to accomplish the same thing. I don't think they can kick you out of a game for the way a coach "looks" at you. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/smile.gif

DblT81

01-13-2003, 01:32 PM

In my illustrious playing career, I got a technical once in 7th grade due to my intense stare at an official after he missed an obvious double dribble.

My coach called a timeout and asked the ref what I said because it must have awful. The official told coach that I stared at him. Coach had a really tough time trying not to laugh.

I figure I could be a pretty good coach because obviously I have the potential to put some heat on referees with my intense stare. http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

OK- thanks for the trip down memory lane, back to the discussion now.

TXSNOS

01-13-2003, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by Press:
"Gosh-a-might, Ref!", is my favorite from her . . .

That's a good one! http://hoopscoop.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

To me she sounds really cute saying these things. In this day and age you hear all kinds of unpleasant things. It's refreshing to see someone from the "old" school stick to their roots and not get sucked into the gutter like so much of the stuff you see on TV today.

Maybe she would agree to be miked and we could get a whole collection of these expressions.

TXs N Os
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Bball Girl

01-13-2003, 11:24 PM

...well now I know why I liked Whittaker so much...Coach Sharp said they tried to recruit her out of high school, but she chose UVA instead...she had high praise for the young lady.

I like Coach KMR's fire and passion, but I don't like it when she implies in her remarks to the press that the outcome of the game hinged on that 4 point play. IMO, she discredits her kids with that kind of remark. They lost by 14 points, were outrebounded (especially on the offensive boards) & had more turnovers than Tech and Tech scored 10 more points off of the BU turnovers. There's the game...
BU lost Young, but we lost Pierson with over 5 minutes left...Tech could have FOLDED big time at that point, but didn't.
No flies on Young, but at this point in their careers, you can't compare the two and their impact on the game.

Brown and Blackmon and Young and I liked Richards (sp?)..that kid works hard and the rest of the team played well and hard.

It was a hard fought game by two athletic teams and a quite a chess match between two coaches.

We're expecting a sea of green/gold in Waco for the rematch.

BEAR SKIN

01-14-2003, 01:25 PM

The sea will be nearly all gold. The green seats should be full of gold clad fans. The students and most of us "blue hairs" have adopted the gold shirts since the men's Monday night massacre of Kansas two seasons ago.

Illustrative of the importance of Big XII Women's Basketball:

Baseball is probably my first sport; and Baylor has a more than adequate team. The old Enron Field (now Minutemaid Park) in Houston is hosting a terriffic early season tournament the weekend of February 14 - 16. #10 BU will play #11 Houston, #2 Rice and a very good U La La. Since those lady Raiders will be in Waco Saturday, it looks like I'll be making two round trips to Houston and skipping the Rice baseball game.