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unkiemark
09-09-2009, 10:33 PM
It seems CU has two verbal commitments for the HS class of '10 in twin sisters Brittany and Ashley Wilson from Long Beach Poly HS.
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncw/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=63116&season=2010&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncw %2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d631 16%26season%3d2010
Go Buffs
09-10-2009, 05:50 PM
Hadn't heard about this, Mark. Britanny sounds like the stronger of the two sisters. I wonder if any other teams have had two sets of twins on the roster at the same time?
CU loses only Bianca Smith after the 09/10 season, so once these two are signed for 10/11, CU will have 15 scholarship players, leaving no more scholarships available until 11/12.
LadyBuff
09-10-2009, 06:20 PM
I am not familiar with rankings. Is 92 a good score?
I am not familiar with rankings. Is 92 a good score?
Yes it is .. if this is still the current meaning of those numbers: (Although I don't see how they can have more than 100 players graded 90-100, as they currently do, under this definition)
90-100: Immediate Impact Prospect
Player demonstrates rare abilities and has the potential to start as a freshman for a national, top-25 program.
80-89: High Major Prospect
Player has the potential to start or significantly contribute as a freshman for most top national Division I programs.
70-79: Major/Mid-Major Prospect
60-69: Low Division I/Mid-Major Prospect
50-59: Prospect
45: Pending Prospect w/ film
40: Pending Prospect
I did some internet snooping and found that these young ladies have been getting some attention since they were hs freshmen. The one I liked best was that Brittany was selected to CalHiSports third team all state this past April after then end of her junior year. 10 players on each of the 3 teams named: first team 8 srs, 1 jr, 1 soph; second team 7 srs 3 jrs; third team 8 srs, 1 jr (Brittany) and 1 spoh.
Here's what they had to say:
G -- Brittany Wilson (Poly, Long Beach) 5-7 Jr.
If you were the big scorer and played Long Beach Poly you knew who Jackrabbits Coach Carl Buggs would assign as the stopper on defense to guard you. Very rarely did this strong, quick underclass guard fail to get the job done for a team that outscored opponents by a 62-36 average on the season. Not only was Wilson the stopper but also the floor leader. To go with her outstanding defense and leadership, Wilson, who has a twin sister 5-7 Ashley on the team, averaged eight points, four rebounds, three steals and two assists on the season. It was in the playoffs where her impact was felt the most. Against Troy of Fullerton in the Southern Regional semifinal Wilson had 14 points, four rebounds and four steals in the 45-38 victory where Troy was held 20 points below its season scoring average. Against Colony of Ontario in the regional final she had 17 points, three rebounds, and three assists and picked the Titans' pockets seven times on defense.
giraffespots
09-11-2009, 09:10 AM
I have actually seen these girls play in person a couple of years ago. They came to play here in Abq. Their team had Monique Oliver and Ariya Crook-Williams also. So, they are used to playing with very talented teammates. While I was most impressed with Crook-Williams at the time, I was impressed with Brittany moreso than with Monique Oliver. However, most "experts" are in love with Oliver, so, my opinion may not be much.
This is an excellent get for CU. I am happy to see this kind of talent coming to the Big 12.
I sat in front of the mothers of both Oliver and the Wilsons. They were very positive, honest and supportive. They made me laugh more than once. So, thats another positive, they are good people from good family.
LadyBuff
09-11-2009, 12:25 PM
While I think these are good gets, it doesn't address the problem with the center position.
Hopefully, it will give us some consistent outside shooting.
unkiemark
09-13-2009, 05:19 PM
While I think these are good gets, it doesn't address the problem with the center position.
Hopefully, it will give us some consistent outside shooting.
Agreed. Even if the sisters Wilson are great the Buffs biggest needs are at the post and power forward. It will be interesting to see what will happen over the next several seasons with the style of play employed by the Buffs. It seems to be moving in the direction of four guards on a regular basis.
LadyBuff
09-14-2009, 12:50 PM
The four guard play didn't work very well last season.
uglyrat
09-17-2009, 04:29 PM
never was a fan of the four guard system. I do not think CU will ever get the athletes needed for that type system. I hope these players are great, but right now I question how recruiting is going.
unkiemark
10-04-2009, 02:44 PM
It would seem that CU is done recruiting the HS class of '10 as by my count they only had two scholarships to give. A year from now they should have six.
uglyrat
10-05-2009, 09:04 AM
if they are done with recruiting and did not get one big, then miller needs to go. They are going to be bad for a while if we can't get some decent post play, and nobody on the roster right now is getting me exited
unkiemark
10-20-2009, 12:56 PM
The BDC is reporting that Shae Kelley of Denver East HS '10 has committed to the Buffs.
http://www.buffzone.com/ci_13600631
uglyrat
10-20-2009, 04:25 PM
hope she is good, disappointed it is not a post player
LadyBuff
10-20-2009, 08:00 PM
This does not address the problem at the post. I don't understand not signing a post player.
unkiemark
10-20-2009, 10:58 PM
This does not address the problem at the post. I don't understand not signing a post player.
Reading all of the media day articles it seems clear that Kathy & Co are moving in a very different direction from what we have all become used to seeing here in Boulder. Specifically they are going to be up-tempo at all times and will be looking to press their opponents. It seems that the coaching staff will be looking for players who can further this cause which means the a lot of athletic perimeter players who can run and trap. If this is the case we may see power forward types playing the 5 and small forward/guards playing the 4.
Go Buffs
10-21-2009, 10:38 AM
Sounds kind of like the Texas A&M system.....
unkiemark
10-21-2009, 09:05 PM
Sounds kind of like the Texas A&M system.....
Exactly my thought after considering the player quotes in the paper.
CU now appears to be looking to generate points off of turnovers by pushing the tempo.
LadyBuff
10-21-2009, 09:26 PM
Can the players we currently have do this? Shooting percentage last season was pretty poor for the most part--with the exception of Kara nobody else could be counted on to be consistent. Either totally on or totally off.
This does not address the problem at the post. I don't understand not signing a post player.
From info on hoopgurlz over the past few months, I saw CU was in on at least the following:
6'2"PF (#14PF)
6'2"PF (#18PF)
6'3"P (#19P)
All of these have, unfortunately, verballed elsewhere. But CU was after them and in the running enough to have been mentioned so maybe in their final 5 or so. Disappointing not to get one of these frontcourt players but the coaches have definitly been after them.
LadyBuff
10-23-2009, 05:01 PM
I also hope the CU doesn't try to play the way A&M plays. I called it thuggery when I saw it played at CU and would not watch it. I've always enjoyed the women's game for the basketball purity. If it turns in to an ugly game like the men now play, count me out.
ChipperF1
10-23-2009, 07:31 PM
"I called it thuggery when I saw it played at CU and would not watch it. I've always enjoyed the women's game for the basketball purity.
Why is a pressing, aggressive defensive style "thuggery". Could you explain why it is thuggery?
The last time Colorado played that style of defense? 1995, 1996, 1997, 2002....Coincidentally, those were also seasons of success for Colorado. Some regional final trips were included
What is unpure about women getting after somebody on defense and turning offense into defense? If you feel this style of play is "thuggery", then Shelly Sheetz was a thug, because on defense she was hell to deal with and stayed in your shirt for 40 minutes, and she is same style of player you see on Texas A&M.
LadyBuff
10-23-2009, 09:16 PM
Those teams of CU's (and I didn't live there in 2002, so don't know what they were playing) played good man to man defense. Nothing wrong with that. Tackling players is another thing and I've seen some of that on games I've watched on television. The game or the defenses played is nothing like that played in the mid to late 90's. Players are much more athletic now than they were then.
In the past few years, during the season, I've made my feelings known about the style of basketball played by A&M. This isn't a new opinion of mine.
tycat947
10-23-2009, 10:33 PM
Those teams of CU's (and I didn't live there in 2002, so don't know what they were playing) played good man to man defense. Nothing wrong with that. Tackling players is another thing and I've seen some of that on games I've watched on television. The game or the defenses played is nothing like that played in the mid to late 90's. Players are much more athletic now than they were then.
In the past few years, during the season, I've made my feelings known about the style of basketball played by A&M. This isn't a new opinion of mine.
I totally agree. I've seen teams play good pressing defense that did NOT play like a&m.
35TangoTango
10-24-2009, 08:49 AM
Why is a pressing, aggressive defensive style "thuggery". Could you explain why it is thuggery?
The last time Colorado played that style of defense? 1995, 1996, 1997, 2002....Coincidentally, those were also seasons of success for Colorado. Some regional final trips were included
What is unpure about women getting after somebody on defense and turning offense into defense? If you feel this style of play is "thuggery", then Shelly Sheetz was a thug, because on defense she was hell to deal with and stayed in your shirt for 40 minutes, and she is same style of player you see on Texas A&M.
The thing that is different about A&M's defense is the amount of (apparently intentional) physical contact involved.
LadyBuff
10-24-2009, 11:10 AM
The think that is different about A&M's defense is the amount of (apparently intentional) physical contact involved.
This is what I think A & M plays. Those defenses of old were not like that. I love the way Iowa State plays now. They play defense, but they still play the game the way it was intended.
Chipper, back in those days, you had one incredible coach. Angela Beck was an incredible competitor who was. She knew how to coach that same type of defense and got the best out of her players. I always had great respect for her and she had a sense of humor with opposing fans also.
ChipperF1
10-24-2009, 03:11 PM
Chipper, back in those days, you had one incredible coach. Angela Beck was an incredible competitor who was.
Angela Beck was incredible...incredibly inept.
Holding Beck up as an example of quality coaching would be like saying Craig Morton was the best quarterback the Denver Broncos ever had.
uglyrat
10-24-2009, 04:25 PM
kmm better hope this works as when mc cartney went to the wishbone and everybody laughed, but it probably saved his job, because he won, she has got to win or she and hawkins can find more programs to drive into mediocrity.
Gator
10-25-2009, 11:16 AM
They play defense, but they still play the game the way it was intended.
I understand why some folks don't like A&M's style of play but I just don't see them with more fouls than any other team and I personally think the "intention" is to play within the rules.
Back to the original topic here for a moment .... CU verbals ..... when Shae Kelley verballed I was wondering where her scholarship was going to come from since, as has been stated earlier by a couple of posters, it looked like CU had only 2 scholarships to give for the 2010 freshman class..... 1 senior in Bianca Smith and 1 currently unfilled scholarship.... and those 2 seemed spoken for with the twin guards from California.
Now it looks like we have the answer to that question. In the article about the injuries to Courtney and Kailah, Courtney was identified as a senior. At first I figured that was just a mistake by the writer but I checked the WBB roster on the Buffs web site and see that Courtney is now listed there as a senior when I know she was listed as a junior a few weeks back. I know this is her fourth year in the program but she redshirted her first season so could still be here next year for her fifth year of eligibility. But it looks like that won't be happening.
unkiemark
10-25-2009, 09:56 PM
Now it looks like we have the answer to that question. In the article about the injuries to Courtney and Kailah, Courtney was identified as a senior. At first I figured that was just a mistake by the writer but I checked the WBB roster on the Buffs web site and see that Courtney is now listed there as a senior when I know she was listed as a junior a few weeks back. I know this is her fourth year in the program but she redshirted her first season so could still be here next year for her fifth year of eligibility. But it looks like that won't be happening.
This is indeed a very interesting development. If true, Courtney is going to graduate in May and move on with whatever is next for her. That frees up a scholarship for the incoming class. It also reduces the number of post players on the roster without for the following season.
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