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HoopScoop
03-11-2008, 09:29 AM
Has anybody heard any updates regarding Stevenson? Last I saw hinted that she was fine - no ACL tear. Has she been cleared to play?
Has anybody heard any updates regarding Stevenson? Last I saw hinted that she was fine - no ACL tear. Has she been cleared to play?
Ny's been cleared to play an will be dressed out on the bench today. Sherri hinted that she might see a lot of minutes in the tournament this week if she's able to handle it.
I think we are going to see a different OU team this week. The only team that didn't use their allotted practice time at Muni yesterday was OU. That's because the team was practicing at LNC prior to busing up to KC.
I think they're serious about getting out of this slump. :)
HoopScoop
03-11-2008, 02:39 PM
Only takes 3 mins 17 seconds to get OU's first points. That's a good sign........not!...........:rolleyes:
HoopScoop
03-11-2008, 02:41 PM
Ashley misses a point blank layup. Missouri up 4-2 with 15:36 to go in first half.
Nothing has changed.
HoopScoop
03-11-2008, 02:49 PM
8-8 10:33 to go.
OU is 4 of 17 so far. Feel the heat!
HoopScoop
03-11-2008, 02:57 PM
15-15 with 5:55 to go.
Wow, now 18-15 Mizzou.
I keep expecting OU to break out of their funk. But when?
I have to give credit to the Tigers for hanging in their. They have played OU well in almost 3 halfs now.
Tied at 21 with 3:45 left in the half.
It's pretty frustrating to have nothing but Gametracker after listening to the ISU-CU game on the radio... :(
HoopScoop
03-11-2008, 03:06 PM
Trust me YCN, you would be cringing if you were watching this.
The shooting will come around. We only have five turnovers.
Of course, that could be 12 turnovers by halftime, or worse...
Two turnovers since my last post!
I'VE JINXED MY TEAM! :eek:
21-24 OU at the half
MU has 11 to's to OU's 7 yet OU is only up by one possession.
OU has also out rebounded MU by 6. I will never understand basketball?
Courtney at halftime:
12 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 blocks.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
wildcatfan
03-11-2008, 03:20 PM
Vining 1 for 2 from 3.:D
Courtney at halftime:
12 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 blocks.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Combined with leading in rebounds and turnovers by good margins and they STILL only lead by three points v the 12 seed in the tourney! That can't be a good sign for OU. Color me :confused: about Sooner basketball.
21-24 OU at the half
MU has 11 to's to OU's 7 yet OU is only up by one possession.
OU has also out rebounded MU by 6. I will never understand basketball?
It's because of offensive rebounds. OU has 7 plus 2 team/deadball rebounds, MU has 2 and 1. And OU's missed 23 shots, Missouri 18. And Missouri's made 3 threes, OU 1. And Missouri's 3-6 on free throws, OU 1-4.
HoopScoop
03-11-2008, 03:28 PM
It's because OU is just shooting very poorly.
32-31 OU at the 4 minute media timeout, 15:31 left.
OU is shooting poorly, but leads in rebounding 33-22, with a 13-4 advantage on offensive rebounds.
Gotta look at the bright side. Survive and advance. ;)
HoopScoop
03-11-2008, 03:43 PM
But will OU survive? Hanneman is hot now for Missouri. Keep a last place team around with this being their final game of the year if they lose, and add a really hot person in the game, that spells DANGER with a capital "D" for Oklahoma.
But will OU survive? Hanneman is hot now for Missouri. Keep a last place team around with this being their final game of the year if they lose, and add a really hot person in the game, that spells DANGER with a capital "D" for Oklahoma.
If this isn't OU's last tourney game, who knows? Maybe it will be the toughest. This conference is hard to predict. Missouri may be the worst team in the Big 12, but they'd be the best team in over half the conferences out there.
Keep this on the down-low, but OU hasn't had a turnover in the second half...
OU 42 MU 40
Ashley's 3-14 shooting today? :(
Courtney's shooting 69%. The rest of the OU team is shooting 20%.
It makes me want to gag.
46-46 all at the 5:56 mark. The Sooners don't want to bore us do they? ;)
OU gets a badly needed three from Jenna to lead MU 49-46. 5:35 remaining.
OU leads at the media timeout, 51-50. 3:42 left.
Courtney 24 points, 14 rebounds, Ashley 10 points, 16 rebounds.
At the 2 minute mark, OU leads 53-50
I can barely breathe...
53-53
15 seconds left
30 second timeout OU, in possession.
Tied again at 53 all with 15 seconds left. OU ball.
HoopScoop
03-11-2008, 04:18 PM
Good grief. Will someone step up and take charge for Oklahoma? This is ridculous. Instead of trying to win the game, they decided to play hot-potato at half-court ..... "no you take the shot, I don't want to take the shot, you take the shot........" unbelievable.
Overtime.
We got the ball to Courtney, but it was taken away.
wildcatfan
03-11-2008, 04:19 PM
Wow!
HoopScoop
03-11-2008, 04:22 PM
Mizzou 60-57 with 2 something left.
I don't know, what can you do? If you can't hit point blank shots, you just aren't going to win.
Press
03-11-2008, 04:25 PM
Now you feel my pain all year. :(
I didn't know it was humanly possible for a team to miss 56 shots in a single game.
We are going to have a nice long break before the NCAA tournament to suck our thumbs and hug our blankies... :(
63-60 Mizzou with 1:40 left in (the first?) OT. This is not a boring blowout.
I think a CU fan said it earlier, but I'll say it again.
Words fail me.
mgood1
03-11-2008, 04:33 PM
Wow, has a 12 seed ever won a game in the Big 12 Tournament?
tycat947
03-11-2008, 04:34 PM
Wow, has a 12 seed ever won a game in the Big 12 Tournament?
Yes.....today.
TTU79
03-11-2008, 04:35 PM
And the puzzling Big 12 gets more puzzling:eek:
mgood1
03-11-2008, 04:36 PM
:rolleyes: I mean before today.
Wow, has a 12 seed ever won a game in the Big 12 Tournament?
Yes. Even before today.
HoopScoop
03-11-2008, 04:37 PM
Danger with a capital "D" indeed. I hate being a prophet. Hanneman nails the 3 at the end of regulation - the rest is history - and so is OU.
Wow, has a 12 seed ever won a game in the Big 12 Tournament?
They have now 70-64 MU.
Words do fail me.
HoopScoop
03-11-2008, 04:38 PM
Not sure I've seen a team freefall like this going into the NCAA Tourney.
74Bear
03-11-2008, 04:39 PM
Some will think this is a stupid question, but I can't help but wonder how many conferences our bottom 6 teams might have won this year or finished second...just on a comparative basis. i guarantee you Missouri would have won Conf. USA having watched SMU and UTEP (and I am not advocating anybody move to another conference, just wondering how well some would do)
74Bear
03-11-2008, 04:39 PM
Keep watching, BU fans will kill me for this, but I'm not sure how far we can go.....TIRED and little bench.
I'd rather have an ego-destroying, soul-tearing loss like this than slog our way to a hairline win over a team we should have been good enough to beat.
There seems to be some sort of chemical makeup in the blood of this OU team that makes them think that they don't have to come to play basketball to win.
I'll bet that 57 missed shots shattered the conference tourney record by a country mile. It was so bad that even Courtney became infected with the "poor shooting virus" late in the game.
Well heck. I have to look at the other side.
Congratulations on a hard fought win Missouri! :MU:
Scamp
03-11-2008, 04:41 PM
Congratulations Tigers! :MU:
mgood1
03-11-2008, 04:43 PM
Definately! Congrats :MU:
They earned it. They discovered what other teams are learning about this OU team, that if you just hang around long enough, eventually the laundry list of this OU team's deficiencies will come back to haunt them.
And I was wrong on the missed shots. OU missed 59 of them, just under three missed shots per minute. Good grief!
Hey mom, guess what we did today? We missed almost three shots a minute, isn't that amazing!
KSUWBBFan
03-11-2008, 04:50 PM
WAY TO GO :MU:!
Hate to see OU lose, but after reading Mechelle's column in the star about the brackets - I think she threw some bad karma OU's way.
I wonder if our men and OU's women are struggling for the same reasons (ala Kobe's Lakers). Too much emphasis/reliance placed on a true star.
Hopefully OU's outside shooting comes back in time for the NCAA's.
Jennifer
03-11-2008, 04:56 PM
Congrats Tigers!
Wow. Just wow. I missed all but the last few minutes of OT, and that was on the radio, so I don't really have anything to add.
HoopScoop
03-11-2008, 05:07 PM
What's really sad is you take the OU team that played Tennessee and play them against this OU team, and the earlier one would have won by 30. Go figure.
Absolute total lack of team chemistry. There's just nothing there. Courtney comes to play game in and game out and no one else is home. Hello? Anybody there?
And whoever said something about karma - you have to wonder. How is it even possible to miss as many layups as they did today? Just make 1, just 1 layup - and they win the game in regulation.
Whatever it is - it's beyond repair and help. This team needs prayer more than anything else - or magic - or something. They've completely lost it.
Driftwood
03-11-2008, 05:10 PM
Keep watching, BU fans will kill me for this, but I'm not sure how far we can go.....TIRED and little bench.
Texas played Baylor to within one in Waco and won in Austin. If we don't look past TTech tonight, we will look forward to another game with the Bears.
We still have some points to prove in this first year with Coach G.
What's really sad is you take the OU team that played Tennessee and play them against this OU team, and the earlier one would have won by 30. Go figure.
Absolute total lack of team chemistry. There's just nothing there. Courtney comes to play game in and game out and no one else is home. Hello? Anybody there?
And whoever said something about karma - you have to wonder. How is it even possible to miss as many layups as they did today? Just make 1, just 1 layup - and they win the game in regulation.
Whatever it is - it's beyond repair and help. This team needs prayer more than anything else - or magic - or something. They've completely lost it.
Well look at the bright side. The way OU's playing right now, the selection committee can sleep comfortably placing OU in OKC, no guilty conscience there. Even if the Sooners can find their way past a 13 or 12 seed in the first round, there's not a snowball's chance in h*** that this team can beat a top twenty team in the second round. Not unless a miracle occurs in the next 11 days.
Dale8R
03-11-2008, 05:34 PM
Well, I'll have to be honest. I have been away until just now, and to repeat a worn out phrase, words fail me.
I came back fully expecting to see an Oklahoma win and ??
I have been a season long fan of Hanneman and was disappointed when she lost her starting job. I guess I am as close as you can get to being a Missouri fan on here, so I suppose I should say, go :MU: but you only have to look at the Oklahoma roster to know that I have leanings there, too.
I loved it last year when Mizzou had all those Southern Illinois girls, but with graduations and Kassie Drew deciding to give up her Senior year because of student teaching, I pretty much drifted away from following them closely this season. (I lived most of my life in Southern Illinois, and had followed many of those girls through their HS careers.)
I do remember saying in the Kansas State is Favored thread that no one should be favored, and this pretty well drives that point home, with several exclamation points.
FriendofCy
03-11-2008, 05:44 PM
Stunned does not do justice to my reaction about this game. ISU had chemistry problems (imho) in Lyndsey Wilson's senior year. The team was totally reliant on her, and often players stood around waiting for her to do something. I wonder if that might not be an issue at OU right now. Totally speculation, but it appears the train is totally off the tracks right now. I wonder if Sherri can get things together for the NCAA's?
Bball Girl
03-11-2008, 06:03 PM
Uhhh....ummm...uhhh...I'm floored. I'm reading thru the posts and.....wowsy.
Good for Cindy and the Tigers!
This really hurts OU's seeding - so that's concerning. I hate that for OU and I know the players, coaches and fans are ..........stunned (words escape me).
Uhhh....ummm...uhhh...I'm floored. I'm reading thru the posts and.....wowsy.
Good for Cindy and the Tigers!
This really hurts OU's seeding - so that's concerning. I hate that for OU and I know the players, coaches and fans are ..........stunned (words escape me).
Bball Girl, this team is emotionally spent. They need time away from the game to realize that it is, after all, just a game. I think they are so wrapped up in the concept of winning and losing that they've completely lost all perspective on what fun basketball is supposed to be. A happy team plays good basketball. A stressed-out basketball team plays a game like OU played today.
Breathe in, breathe out. Wax on, wax off. They need Mr. Miyagi right now.
HoopScoop
03-11-2008, 06:32 PM
Stunned does not do justice to my reaction about this game. ISU had chemistry problems (imho) in Lyndsey Wilson's senior year. The team was totally reliant on her, and often players stood around waiting for her to do something. I wonder if that might not be an issue at OU right now. Totally speculation, but it appears the train is totally off the tracks right now. I wonder if Sherri can get things together for the NCAA's?
I don't think this is Sherri's problem to solve. The players have to take a hard look at themselves right now and figure out who really wants to play or just stand around and play hot-potato like they did as time expired in regulation. That play really explains where this team is now. No one wanted to shoot the ball or take charge.
AGain, only Courtney comes to play anymore.
CowgirlsFreak
03-11-2008, 06:46 PM
Well look at the bright side. The way OU's playing right now, the selection committee can sleep comfortably placing OU in OKC, no guilty conscience there. Even if the Sooners can find their way past a 13 or 12 seed in the first round, there's not a snowball's chance in h*** that this team can beat a top twenty team in the second round. Not unless a miracle occurs in the next 11 days.
HUH??? This makes no sense to me. I think this probably knocks uO out of the OKC regional. Although I could be wrong, 3 losses in a row and I am sure they will still be ranked about 11.:rotflol:
Way to go Mizzou!!! That was a hard fought battle throughout. Glad you girls pulled it out.
O.. And congrats to uO for making history and being the first team to EVER lose to a 12 seed in the Big XII tourney!!!
HUH??? This makes no sense to me. I think this probably knocks uO out of the OKC regional. Although I could be wrong, 3 losses in a row and I am sure they will still be ranked about 11.:rotflol:
Way to go Mizzou!!! That was a hard fought battle throughout. Glad you girls pulled it out.
O.. And congrats to uO for making history and being the first team to EVER lose to a 12 seed in the Big XII tourney!!!
No, the less of a threat OU is perceived to be, the more likely they are to be assigned to what looks more and more like a strong region headlined by Tennessee and Maryland. With OU not a threat, it makes justifying placement in the region just that much more likely. Don't worry about OSU, CowgirlsFreak. I'm pretty sure that they'll be in OKC, whether or not OU gets there. Most likely "not" is the correct word right now.
tycat947
03-11-2008, 07:08 PM
No, the less of a threat OU is perceived to be, the more likely they are to be assigned to what looks more and more like a strong region headlined by Tennessee and Maryland. With OU not a threat, it makes justifying placement in the region just that much more likely. Don't worry about OSU, CowgirlsFreak. I'm pretty sure that they'll be in OKC, whether or not OU gets there. Most likely "not" is the correct word right now.
Boone Pickens State has to win TWO games before they can get to OKC. We'll see if they can do that.
CowgirlsFreak
03-11-2008, 07:12 PM
Well, one thing is for sure... They can not do any worse than Gaylord U!!!
MsProudSooner
03-11-2008, 07:12 PM
I didn't get to see this game, but it seems to me that this teams biggest problem right now isn't offense, but defense. We outrebounded Missoui by a large margin. We had fewer turnovers than they did. But, there seemed to be too many times when we would score on 3 or 4 straight possessions, but so would they. When you are in an offensive funk, and our guards are definitely in a deep one, you have to pick up your team defense. Get some stops. Get some turnovers. That is what the men did after their abysmal showing in Nebraska. They played tough defense against Texas A&M and it helped get their offense going.
I think just about every player on this team came from very successful high school programs. I'm not sure if any of them have ever had to deal with this kind of adversity before. And, they aren't reacting to it well. They say you have to hit bottom before you can start back up. Hopefully, that's what they have done.
Boone Pickens State has to win TWO games before they can get to OKC. We'll see if they can do that.
What's the reason why they couldn't be there, regardless of what their seed is? I don't see having to win this or that game having much to do with the equation. We know that the committee is going to favor placements that enhance attendance this year.
OU losing prestige helps in a way because it could be perceived to be an overly unfair home court advantage if OU was really a solid three.
No chance of that any more. No chance of a three anymore.
40ishHorn
03-11-2008, 07:29 PM
The only team that didn't use their allotted practice time at Muni yesterday was OU.
And what was behind this strategy? 20/20 hindsight says they really needed to get a better feel for the rims, the court, the building or something. ???
I was so busy at work today and I had no chance to check scores. I'm shocked.:eek:
wildcatfan
03-11-2008, 08:12 PM
Well, one thing is for sure... They can not do any worse than Gaylord U!!!
You're real classy! You represent your school well.;)
LadyBuff
03-11-2008, 08:41 PM
I am totally shocked. However, congratulations :MU:
TTU79
03-11-2008, 08:46 PM
Mark me surprised:eek:, but good for Missouri. This may help Oklahoma in the long run.
HoopScoop
03-11-2008, 09:02 PM
Mark me surprised:eek:, but good for Missouri. This may help Oklahoma in the long run.
I wish. But, just like the loss to Texas? Just like the lost to A&M? I'm much too cynical to believe that now.
TTU79
03-11-2008, 09:05 PM
I've seen embarrassing loses like this serve as superb motivators for teams. The year Tech won the NCAA, they suffered a really unimaginable loss. After that it was full steam ahead. So this could serve as the wake-up call for your young ladies.
I've seen embarrassing loses like this serve as superb motivators for teams. The year Tech won the NCAA, they suffered a really unimaginable loss. After that it was full steam ahead. So this could serve as the wake-up call for your young ladies.
Last year I thought that Rutgers looked as absolutely bad as a well-regarded team could possibly look against Duke, and they didn't catch fire until the NCAA tournament. They did pretty well.
I'll never throw in the towel as long as my fighter isn't exhibiting rigor mortis.
I have to tell you, it's becoming a close call. On the rigor mortis, that is... :)
Cyclones Rule
03-11-2008, 10:43 PM
Thought I would add my thoughts being that I was there to witness it. WAY TO GO :MU: I was very vocal in my support of Mizzou and I will always cheer for the north and when they are playing the south, but even better when it's OU and they go home on DAY ONE.
OSUCowgirls
03-11-2008, 10:47 PM
Thought I would add my thoughts being that I was there to witness it. WAY TO GO :MU: I was very vocal in my support of Mizzou and I will always cheer for the north and when they are playing the south, but even better when it's OU and they go home on DAY ONE.
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swok34
03-12-2008, 12:18 AM
I'm pretty sure that is not what Sherri was wearing today so I'm pretty sure that is not a current photo.
It's very sad to see some of the things that you all are saying about this team. You think and hope that your fellow hoopscoopers support the teams and come to find out, there are jerks at every post. It is possible to root for both teams and hope for the best team to win especially when your dog's not in the fight.
Now, I really don't believe what's occurring with OU is something can be repaired this season. These are problems that need to be addressed in the offseason. And I have no doubt they will. Sherri is too good of a coach and has an amazing amount of talent for this team not to look like an OU team of the past.
I'll be here until Sunday cheering for all the student athletes for each and every team.
giraffespots
03-12-2008, 01:37 AM
Thought I would add my thoughts being that I was there to witness it. WAY TO GO :MU: I was very vocal in my support of Mizzou and I will always cheer for the north and when they are playing the south, but even better when it's OU and they go home on DAY ONE.
Thought I would add my thoughts being that I was there to witness it.
Congrats MU. You did great and I don't want to gloss over your win.
Also, I want to say thanks to BBallGirl for her CLASSY response in the Nebraska thread. The 4 musketeers (and mc6821 too) are here together and we appreciate your thoughts.
Yes, we are ALL sad and just a little mad too. Now for my thoughts on the other things I witnessed. The entire arena was rooting for Missouri. And I get that. I get that everyone wants to beat OU. I don't have a problem with that. I don't even have a problem with those of you hoopscoopers who root against OU. What I DO have a problem with is the way some of it was done.
First of all, the spirit of this board is for all Big 12 fans to come together in a spirit of unity and love for the Big 12. We are not antagonistic or hateful and we do not denigrate others. I consider fellow hoopscoopers to be friends, be they Longhorns, Huskers or even Cowgirls.
Tonight, I quietly cheered for whoever I wanted to in a manner that did not offend any of my hoopscoop friends. However that courtesy was not extended to me and my fellow Sooners.
Yes, CyclonesRules, I am speaking to you. Not only were you vocal in your support of Mizzou, you very nearly fell over the railing, you were cheering so hard and loud. You did NOT have a dog in that fight, yet you chose to slap us in the face with your cheering. Not that you did not have the right to root for Missouri, because you did. However, as a hoopscooper I would have thought you would be able to root for Missouri in a more classy way.
Then, after the game, you went up to tx4ou and mockingly asked him if he wanted to sell his tickets for the rest of the tournament. All I can say is I am SO glad you did not ask me that because I would have shown my tail.
No, we are NOT interested in selling our tickets to the rest of the tournament because WE ARE OU. We are here to cheer and root for our beloved Big 12 teams. We do not turn tail and run just because our hearts are broken in this loss. Is that what you would have done? I noticed you were not at any of the night games, however, I AND THE REST of the of the OU hoopscoopers were.
I am truly saddened by the turn this board is taking. I thought we were above the pettiness and hatefulness that is evident on other boards. Obviously, I was wrong. Its one thing to root against OU, its another to step on us and kick us when we are down. And that is what I felt CycloneRules did tonight. Have a good nights sleep and a good laugh tomorrow. Just remember, Pride goeth before a fall.
I refuse to stoop to the level of some on this board, so in the words of Forrest Gump: Thats all I have to say about that.
tx4OU
03-12-2008, 01:47 AM
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Cyclones Rule wrote: Thought I would add my thoughts being that I was there to witness it. WAY TO GO I was very vocal in my support of Mizzou and I will always cheer for the north and when they are playing the south, but even better when it's OU and they go home on DAY ONE.
I guess I must have missed the new announcement where HoopScoop has become just like your everyday fan web site. Yes, I was there and witnessed Cyclones Rule's bellowing cheers. I was also asked in a mocking and down right, less than HoopScoop, worthy way if I wanted to sell my tickets. The question wasn't asked out of truly wanting the tickets, but a direct dig at what you just stated in your post.
I've read posts this evening where the letters for my school are transversed as if to make a jab. I have seen this on many other boards used as slams. In fact, it's very common to see OSU being referred to as oswho on those types of boards.
I think I might be taking a break from HoopScoop. Not for my team's lack of success on the court, but more for what this site, which has been a respite for me from all the other negative boards out there, has become lately.
CowgirlsFreak
03-12-2008, 02:04 AM
Is it "Oklahoma University" or is it "the university of Oklahoma"? I have always been told it is the university of Oklahoma. Therefore, in my eyes, it should be uO! That is why I write it like that. You do not see the University of Texas with 'TU', rather they have 'UT' which is correct!
Gator
03-12-2008, 07:05 AM
Is it "Oklahoma University" or is it "the university of Oklahoma"? I have always been told it is the university of Oklahoma. Therefore, in my eyes, it should be uO! That is why I write it like that. Freak: It is OU if you would like to show the barest amount of respect. It is uO if you want to try and find someone to play your little "mine's better than yours" game.
After reading a lot more of this thread, edited to add:
I was there last night. The ISU fans in front of us had our full throated support as they won going away. We told them we were worried about which OU team would show up for the second game and they thought we were blowing smoke. I was hoping that a week plus off the court would have given them the chance to rediscover the team which played Tennessee in the Fall. We were prepared for a lack luster game because we were afraid to hope for more. But, obviously, it was worse than we could have ever expected. Heart sick is just a melodramatic phrase until it happens to you.
I can just imagine the absolute joy of the Missouri kids and more power to them! They deserve to enjoy their fantastic almost end of season victory! It has to change, even if just a little bit, how they will remember this BB year.
I can't imagine how the OU kids feel. They let themselves down.
And for the first time I can begin to sympathize a bit with the Tennessee fans I talked to at one of the Final Four games. They said they "knew everyone" was rooting for them to be beaten because they were Tennessee. I thought at the time it was a bit paranoid. I still think so but given the absolute glee with which some greeted OU's defeat - NOT MU's victory but OU's defeat - I better understand the old joke: just because you are paranoid doesn't mean you don't have enemies.
So - if it floats your boat - gloat. That reaction disappoints, but doesn't entirely surprise me.
If you are a true Missouri fan - CONGRATULATIONS
If you are an OU fan, you KNOW we WILL be back! It sure would be nice if a bit of that "back" happened in the next tournament.
And NO!!!! I don't have any tickets for sale! We came to see some good BB and are just disappointed that it didn't include our team - this time.
ChiBears
03-12-2008, 08:06 AM
Now's one of those times when emotions are high and things are a little raw. Please, EVERYONE, take a deep breath and a step back. Maybe giving the board a break isn't a bad idea, just to let a little healing take place.
I agree the civility of this board is its major draw and I don't care for the times it slides a little off that track, either, but I hold on to the fact that it is not "THE BOARD," but usually a poster or two who steps over the line.
People's behavior can be a mystery sometimes. Being an adult does not ensure automatic maturity, unfortunately, and our sports culture has devolved so much into thinking that at a sports venue, anything goes...(Even I, who am pretty non confrontational and was raised to be uber polite, find myself screaming at the refs sometimes and have to think, "Now WHY am I behaving like that? Just because everyone else is?)
ALL the posters here bring something positive to the board (though, okay, you may have to dig a little harder in some people's posts...) and it would be a shame to lose that.
Maybe we can all try a little harder to be sensitive to other's feelings and to remember that one bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch.
Forgive me if this sounds like a parent chastising...as I said, I've behaved at games in ways I shouldn't have before and I've left angry at ol' so-and-so poster whom I think "is an ass"--so I have no moral authority to interject here. I guess it just makes me sad when my "basketball family" is fighting.
Cyclones Rule
03-12-2008, 08:38 AM
Now that my character is being tried on this board I have to state some facts. I said nothing to the OU hoopscoopers about selling their tickets. My cousin who is letting us stay with her while in K.C. was the one asking about tickets and she was being sincere because she doesn't have any and myself and ISUbballfan just happened to be in the area. So that excuse is bullcrap. As far as my cheering goes nothing was derogatory, and Mizzou had few fans and for one game I wanted to give their players who bust their butts a taste of what the ISU players get night in and night out.
wildcatfan
03-12-2008, 08:41 AM
It's too bad that things have taken an ugly turn on this board. I don't know how any true basketball fan can take pleasure in a team's demise. I know I don't. I feel for OU, I hope they can figure things out and get it turned around by NCAA time. Their confidence is shaken in a big way. They need to get that back.
JacknCy
03-12-2008, 08:48 AM
I think things get tense when you get the coaches, players and fans of all 12 teams in one place at one time. Often comments and reactions that fans make on this board are at least given some screening and thought before being posted. Granted I am sitting in South Dakota and not in KC but my hypothesis is that the reactions seen out of certain fans are their gut reaction and they did not think through what they did and said. Though even their reaction on the board was also embarassing for a fellow fan. My solution:
Yes, sometimes it is fun to be witty or cute by firing off a comment. Yes this is a message board but you are not talking to a computer screen. Being at the tournament you come face to face with other PEOPLE!!! There is a human being sitting on the other side of the computer screen.
From outside the B12 where things got tense at tourney time:
After barking at an official during a free-throw attempt in the women's final, an Oral Roberts cheerleader received a warning about his behavior. This highlights one of the hidden delights of this tournament: The in-fighting.
Having all 10 schools in one place provides insight into who gets along and who doesn't, who's well liked and who's not and what cheer teams are the most ruthless.
The leader in the clubhouse for catty exchange of the weekend: A coach from Team A complains about being seeded No. 1 and having to play the host school. A coach from Team B offers a reminder that Team A only got the top seed because two others weren't eligible for the tournament. The coach from Team A fires back by saying that Coach B's club wouldn't have even qualified for the tournament if all 10 teams had been eligible. Touche.
Cyclones Rule
03-12-2008, 08:49 AM
I noticed you were not at any of the night games, however, I AND THE REST of the of the OU hoopscoopers were.
Your are right I wasn't at the night games and I have a very good reason. I was invited to a special get together for ISU parents and fans. We had a very good time.
OUFANGR82B1
03-12-2008, 10:07 AM
You're real classy! You represent your school well.;)
Thats what happens when your the Step Child of the State of Oklahoma and always will be.
See I've stooped to Freaks level with my comment. But I've had it. I read this board because every fan is pretty cordial to each other no matter what colors they wear. If I want to get rude or nasty I can go to other boards. Freak, 90% percent of the things you write concern something negative about OU. I don't think you were born yesterday so I believe you know its OU. I am a diehard Sooner. I root for OU first, then OSU and then other teams in the Big 12. But Freak, fans like you are making it hard for me to root for anything orange anymore. If you want to get nasty take it to the osu board. You can have a hay day there.
tycat947
03-12-2008, 10:25 AM
You're real classy! You represent your school well.;)
Now everyone knows what we put up with all year! :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
tycat947
03-12-2008, 10:32 AM
Is it "Oklahoma University" or is it "the university of Oklahoma"? I have always been told it is the university of Oklahoma. Therefore, in my eyes, it should be uO! That is why I write it like that. You do not see the University of Texas with 'TU', rather they have 'UT' which is correct!
In case you haven't noticed (obviously), many schools (especially the old Big 8) do the same. University of Kansas (KU), University of Missouri (MU), University of Nebraska (NU), University of Colorado (CU), University of Denver (DU), University of Tulsa (TU) and of course, University of Oklahoma (OU)! Why does Boone Pickens State go by osu????
DblT81
03-12-2008, 10:34 AM
Tournament time! Gotta love it.
signed,
Mean Texas Tech Fan :cool:
CowgirlsFreak
03-12-2008, 10:36 AM
I can have a hay day there just as others can have a hay day on their respective boards. I have been to UO's boards and have seen the things that people have said about OSU and the Cowgirls. And the comments are made by the same posters that post on here.
OU... UO... I understand people call it OU. From the first time I was exposed to the University of Oklahoma, I said 'UO'. It is not meant to be mean or anything like that. I grew up in a family that was completely pro-UO. They did not have a problem with me calling it that all my life, so it is hard to change after so many years of calling them UO. And I will not do so just to make certain people happy.
I rarely call the schools in the prior post by their initials. I just spell out the names of the schools without 'STATE' in the name, just because that is what I do!
I don't understand what is so offensive about it!?!
Now, back to the game.. WAY TO GO :MU:
wildcatfan
03-12-2008, 10:44 AM
I can have a hay day there just as others can have a hay day on their respective boards. I have been to UO's boards and have seen the things that people have said about OSU and the Cowgirls. And the comments are made by the same posters that post on here.
OU... UO... I understand people call it OU. From the first time I was exposed to the University of Oklahoma, I said 'UO'. It is not meant to be mean or anything like that. I grew up in a family that was completely pro-UO. They did not have a problem with me calling it that all my life, so it is hard to change after so many years of calling them UO. And I will not do so just to make certain people happy.
I rarely call the schools in the prior post by their initials. I just spell out the names of the schools without 'STATE' in the name, just because that is what I do!
I don't understand what is so offensive about it!?!
Now, back to the game.. WAY TO GO :MU:
You obviously just don't get it. This isn't the "other boards", we aren't blatantly disrespectful to others on this board. If you don't like something said on another board, then go there to post. We don't do that here.
OUFANGR82B1
03-12-2008, 10:50 AM
You obviously just don't get it. This isn't the "other boards", we aren't blatantly disrespectful to others on this board. If you don't like something said on another board, then go there to post. We don't do that here.
Thank you wildcatfan. That is the point I was trying to make. I can get down and dirty with the best of them, but I try not to bring it over here. I like to take a break from that kind of crap, thats why I like reading this board. Its usually pretty cordial on here.
OUFANGR82B1
03-12-2008, 11:00 AM
I can have a hay day there just as others can have a hay day on their respective boards. I have been to UO's boards and have seen the things that people have said about OSU and the Cowgirls. And the comments are made by the same posters that post on here.
OU... UO... I understand people call it OU. From the first time I was exposed to the University of Oklahoma, I said 'UO'. It is not meant to be mean or anything like that. I grew up in a family that was completely pro-UO. They did not have a problem with me calling it that all my life, so it is hard to change after so many years of calling them UO. And I will not do so just to make certain people happy.
I rarely call the schools in the prior post by their initials. I just spell out the names of the schools without 'STATE' in the name, just because that is what I do!
I don't understand what is so offensive about it!?!
Now, back to the game.. WAY TO GO :MU:
Just becasue you were raised disrespectful doesnt mean you have to stay that way.
CowgirlsFreak
03-12-2008, 11:01 AM
OK... Then lets all be cordial!
Way to go :MU:!
Way to fight out a good win. Glad you girls can end your season on a high note!
CowgirlsFreak
03-12-2008, 11:02 AM
Just becasue you were raised disrespectful doesnt mean you have to stay that way.
I am just saying, I do NOT get how saying UO is disrespectful. Could you please explain that to me? Just because I go against the norm, does NOT mean I am disrespectful in calling "OU" UO.
MsProudSooner
03-12-2008, 11:16 AM
I'm not sure why, but I know that if you call Texas TU, they won't like it either. Just as the University of Tulsa wants to be called TU, not UT. It's a matter of having enough respect for the institution to use the name they prefer. My boss prefers to be called Deb instead of Debbie. If I insist on calling her Debbie, when I know she prefers Deb, I'm not respecting her wishes. It's as simple as that.
I am just saying, I do NOT get how saying UO is disrespectful. Could you please explain that to me? Just because I go against the norm, does NOT mean I am disrespectful in calling "OU" UO.
I hope I will not be adding to hard feelings but let me give you my view on why it is offensive or if you prefer, provocative/irritating. I have a name given by my parents. It is Ronald. I don't care to be called that, my preference is to be called Ron. (except on this board where I'm "Jimi" but stay with me here ;)) If you know that I don't like being called Ronald and want to be called Ron and yet you persist in calling me Ronald, I am going to assume that you are doing it as an intentional put down.
You could say "I'm only calling you by your correct name. What's wrong with that?"
What would be wrong is that calling me Ronald is not respectful of my wishes. If you look on the Big 12 site, this board or almost anywhere that Oklahoma is referred to by initials is is listed as OU. They prefer it that way rather than UO much less uO.
I would add however, that terms like Boone Pickins State are also deliberately disrespectful and undermine the message of anyone calling for respect and decorum. Let's keep it on the up side both ways.
I'm not sure why, but I know that if you call Texas TU, they won't like it either. Just as the University of Tulsa wants to be called TU, not UT. It's a matter of having enough respect for the institution to use the name they prefer. My boss prefers to be called Deb instead of Debbie. If I insist on calling her Debbie, when I know she prefers Deb, I'm not respecting her wishes. It's as simple as that.
You said it well. I started my post and got interupted and finnished way behind you. Sorry for restating what you already said better.
wildcatfan
03-12-2008, 11:34 AM
I am just saying, I do NOT get how saying UO is disrespectful. Could you please explain that to me? Just because I go against the norm, does NOT mean I am disrespectful in calling "OU" UO.
The bottom line is, it bothers people on this board. They have asked you not to do it. A mature, respectful adult would abide by those wishes.;)
OSUCowgirls
03-12-2008, 12:03 PM
You obviously just don't get it. This isn't the "other boards", we aren't blatantly disrespectful to others on this board. If you don't like something said on another board, then go there to post. We don't do that here.
That's what I used to love about Hoopscoop!
You're right though. People aren't BLATANTLY disrespectful on this board (for the most part). But some people are disrespectful in more subtle ways. That wears on people after a while.
One more thing.......
If SOME of the OU fans would be more like swok34, I think the board would be a much more pleasant place for all hoopscoopers. There might be other fans of OU that make fair and sensible posts here (like swok34). But I can't think of any at the moment.
GO BIG 12!
BearLady
03-12-2008, 12:22 PM
If SOME of the OU fans would be more like swok34, I think the board would be a much more pleasant place for all hoopscoopers. There might be other fans of OU that make fair and sensible posts here (like swok34). But I can't think of any at the moment.
Everyone must do his or her own part, regardless of how skewed the relative stats may seem at the time.
Scamp
03-12-2008, 12:25 PM
Let's not forget Internet rule #1: don't feed the trolls! ;)
tycat947
03-12-2008, 12:26 PM
If SOME of the OSU fans would be more like swok34, I think the board would be a much more pleasant place for all hoopscoopers. There might be other fans of OSU that make fair and sensible posts here (like swok34). But I can't think of any at the moment.
OSUCowgirls
03-12-2008, 12:30 PM
Let's not forget Internet rule #1: don't feed the trolls! ;)
Thanks Scamp. I've forgotten that lately.
Those trolls have just been so hungry lately! :rotflol:
They just keep begging for food.
wildcatfan
03-12-2008, 12:35 PM
Let's not forget Internet rule #1: don't feed the trolls! ;)
Good point.
OSUCowgirls
03-12-2008, 12:37 PM
If SOME of the OSU fans would be more like swok34, I think the board would be a much more pleasant place for all hoopscoopers. There might be other fans of OSU that make fair and sensible posts here (like swok34). But I can't think of any at the moment.
I'm sorry. I don't want to feed you anymore.
Go Cowgirls!
tycat947
03-12-2008, 12:39 PM
I'm sorry. I don't want to feed you anymore.
Go Cowgirls!
Thanks because I didn't want to feed you anymore either! :)
I've been reading this thread, and lamenting the old Hoopscoop where there was wonderment about the Big 12 combined with pride for our teams.
And frankly, some of the things I've seen posted here I simply don't believe. I know enough about different posters to spot the garbage before it hits the can.
I love Big 12 basketball, and I love my OU team. I'll get over a tough loss, I always have. But I will not get over people being hurtful and unkind for no other reason than because they get something primal out of doing such things.
Let's please behave as a decent community here, because together is all we have. Without it, this board is nothing.
Jennifer
03-12-2008, 01:26 PM
Thought I would add my thoughts being that I was there to witness it. WAY TO GO :MU: I was very vocal in my support of Mizzou and I will always cheer for the north and when they are playing the south, but even better when it's OU and they go home on DAY ONE.
Wow, I thought you were going to add thoughts about the actual game.
I guess I'm glad I didn't get a chance to see it, based on stats and obviously outcome.
Don't know a whole lot else.
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